Coaching WARNING - Page 24

Claunchy · #**231** 03-08-2007, 01:12 AM

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Taylor Caby (in a totally heterosexual way of course).

holyfield5 · #**232** 03-08-2007, 01:19 AM

yes this was pretty scummy of snowbank, i wont be looking to him for coaching, it would have been best if he just payed the poor guy back. Its like all the big corporations do, if you whine enough they just give you free stuff, they do it for a reason. You keep your policy of no reasons etc but if they keep at it just give it to them and save yourself a lot of hassle and trouble and threads like this.

doc43 · #**233** 03-08-2007, 01:24 AM

Very interesting discussion. There are lessons here for everybody.

Coaches:

1. Spend some time considering if you have what it takes to be a successful coach. Being a great player does not always mean you will be a great coach. Butch Harmon is a great golf coach, but is not a great golfer. His former student, Tiger Woods, likely couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

2. Treat coaching as a business. Be very clear (in writing) what you will do, how you will do it, and what it will cost. Have written policies about payment, refunds, exchanges, scheduling etc. Gaurentee your services (you will do what you say you will do, when you say you will do it), but do not gaurentee results. That is up to the student. Tom McEvoy only says that you will be a better player with him. He does not say you will be a winner.

3. Treat your clients with the respect and courtesy they deserve. If there is a conflict, then move heaven and earth to make it right. Word of mouth is extremely powerful. We have seen here how an unhappy client can bring down a career. It doesn't have to go that way.

Students:

1.Before looking for a coach, do some serious self-assessment. Figure out exactly what you want/need from a coach. You don't need a coach to learn how to play AQ UTG in LAG's. Coaches can be very useful in a more global sense such as dealing with psychological issues, tells, image, bad habits, and negative trends in your play.

2. Do your homework . Look at lots of coaches. Talk to them. Interview them as you would a new attorney or an accountant. Talk to others that have worked with them. Make sure that they can provide what you need. It's your money and your time. You need to make the most of it. That is the essance of EV.

aba20 · #**234** 03-08-2007, 01:26 AM

Seems pretty unethical to me. As a part owner of cardrunners if a situation like this arose I would reimburse the money for unused lessons.

eviljeff · #**235** 03-08-2007, 01:28 AM

shhhhhhhhhhhh

Kermit · #**236** 03-08-2007, 01:28 AM

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Seems pretty unethical to me. As a part owner of cardrunners if a situation like this arose I would reimburse the money for unused lessons.

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^^^ what?

anyway, how about putting up some videos that don't cut off half way through?

Speedlimits · #**237** 03-08-2007, 01:31 AM

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its just buisness. remember that

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very true, and i would venture to say snowbank won't be in the coaching business too much longer. that's just business, though.

tc

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Taylor is the champppp. He's got a hot girl too according to pics, props.

Taylor Caby · #**238** 03-08-2007, 01:39 AM

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LOL. TC, I'm impressed that you've continued to check in on this thread even though it really had nothing to do with you. I hope we can work together at some point in the future.

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thanks.

the reason i saw the thread was OP IM me the other day asking me if CR refunds people if they are unhappy with coaching. we havent had one complaint in that regard so i asked him wtf he was talking about. he said some guy on 2p2 owed him lessons and he wanted to cancel and the guy wouldnt pay him back. one of the things coach said to student was "cardrunners wont give you a refund." just completely untrue, disparaging remarks about something they have no clue about.

tc

TheWorstPlayer · #**239** 03-08-2007, 01:41 AM

Ya. I read that in the other thread. Still cool of you. See you around at some point in the next few months, I'm sure.

Taylor Caby · #**240** 03-08-2007, 01:41 AM

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its just buisness. remember that

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very true, and i would venture to say snowbank won't be in the coaching business too much longer. that's just business, though.

tc

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new title: rubbing out the competition one thread at a time

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well played. we really aren't into the business of coaching though, just do a little bit here and there. still, i like it.

tc