party is pulling out

[TimM]

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If no good news comes up in the next few days I'm picking up a pair of shades with my PartyPoints.

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Yeah good luck with that, I've been waiting since July for mine.

[RYL]

Online gaming in crisis over U.S. ban By Pete Harrison
Mon Oct 2, 8:12 AM ET



LONDON (Reuters) - Online gambling firms faced their biggest-ever crisis on Monday after U.S. Congress passed legislation to end Internet gaming there, threatening jobs and wiping 3.5 billion pounds ($6.5 billion) off company values.

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Britain's PartyGaming Plc, operator of leading Internet poker site PartyPoker.com, and rivals Sportingbet and 888 Plc said they would likely pull out of the United States, their biggest source of revenue.

"This development is a significant setback for our company, our shareholders, our players and our industry," PartyGaming Chief Executive Mitch Garber said.

The House of Representatives and Senate unexpectedly approved a bill early on Saturday that would make it illegal for banks and credit-card companies to make payments to online gambling sites.

The measure was sent to President George W. Bush to sign into law, which most analysts see as a certainty.

"We believe that this will have a very material impact on the long-term prospects of online gambling, and in particular poker," said analyst Julian Easthope at UBS. "This will lead to a rapid decline in the use of online poker sites."

PartyGaming generates about 78 percent of its revenue from the United States, while Sportingbet gets about 62 percent there.

CRACKDOWN

Shares in PartyGaming, which rakes in nearly $4 million a day from its 19 million customers, fell 57 percent by 1155 GMT.

Sportingbet, which owns sportsbook.com and ParadisePoker.com, lost 60 percent, 888 was down 33 percent and Austria's bwin.com fell 24 percent.

Bwin could be pushed to the brink, having paid heavily for Swedish online poker site Ongame earlier this year to gain access to the U.S. market, said Leopold Salcher, an analyst at Austria's RCB. "This could break their neck," he said.

Online gaming exploded in 2005 with a string of high-profile company flotations in London, which has become the industry's corporate center.

The bulk of revenue has always come from U.S. players, but the firms were located in offshore jurisdictions like Costa Rica and Antigua for fear of prosecution in the United States, where the legal status of online gaming and betting was uncertain.

Shares in Sportingbet and BETonSPORTS had already been hammered after recent arrests of senior executives on charges of illegal gambling in individual U.S. states, but investors remained hopeful online betting and gaming would not be completely banned at a federal level.

Meanwhile, big American corporations like Las Vegas-based Harrah's Entertainment Inc. were forced to sit on the sidelines as gaming money streamed out of the country.

PartyGaming said in a statement, "If the President signs the act into law, the company will suspend all real money gaming business with U.S. residents."

"Any such suspension would also result in the group's financial performance falling significantly short of consensus forecasts for 2006 and 2007," it added.

MERGER SCRAPPED

Stephen Whittaker, joint chief investment officer at Britain's New Star Asset Management, said the likely ban could be challenged.

"This represents protectionism, and the WTO have said you can't do that," said Whittaker, whose portfolio includes about 2 percent of online gaming stocks. "Overall, we'll probably remain with most of our holdings."

"We'll probably reduce one, maybe two," he added. "We want to let the dust settle a bit -- it will take a few days."

Sportingbet said a ban would hit trading and it would scrap a planned merger with World Gaming as a result.

888 Plc said the move would hit its results, as did gaming software provider Playtech, whose shares fell 42 percent.

But Paul Leyland at Arbuthnot Securities said Playtech was relatively well positioned. "The only company for which you could categorically say that redeployment is easy is Playtech," he said. "But for the others it's much more difficult."

A ban would also hit payment processors such as Neteller Plc and Optimal Group's FireOne subsidiary.

(Additional reporting by Laurence Fletcher in London and Alexandra Schwarz in Vienna)

[OHFreak]

BWin = Ongame = Pokerroom and skins, correct???

[bobbyi]

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A huge publicly traded company like party gaming can't just thumb it's nose at the laws of a huge country like the US.

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Isn't that what the online sportsbooks have been doing since their inception?

[DMoogle]

I think you guys need to read the article a little more carefully.
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After taking extensive legal advice, the Board of PartyGaming Plc has concluded that the new legislation, if signed into law, will make it practically impossible to provide US residents with access to its real money poker and other real money gaming sites. As a result of this development, the Board of PartyGaming has determined that if the President signs the Act into law, the Company will suspend all real money gaming business with US residents, and such suspension will continue indefinitely, subject to clarification of the interpretation and enforcement of US law and the impact on financial institutions of this and other related legislation.

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This means that they're pulling out until they know exactly what they can do. It does not mean they have given up, as many of you seem to think.

Still a bitch though.

[Supwithbates]

i think this "poker banned" news is fake, i just got on my .01/.02 table fine

[bobbyi]

... and when I cash out it tells me "Support your right to play Poker! (US players only)" and encourages me to join the PPA. Thanks Party.

[breaktwister]

Canard - the Natwest three is a totally different proposition. There is an excellent thread on here in relation to extradition which explains the differences - mainly to extradite the Defendant/s must have committed a "crime" which would be punishable in law in both countries - which is clearly not the case with online poker sites which are legal in the UK.

Why do you think US gov had to wait for SportingBet and BetonSports directors to enter US soil to arrest??

[gila]

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i think this "poker banned" news is fake, i just got on my .01/.02 table fine

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lol

[betgo]

Party and Pacific are two of the worst run and sleaziest sites. I certainly don't mind losing those two.