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Old 08-15-2006, 02:48 PM
Senator_Thack Senator_Thack is offline
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For your next gig, brush up on how to win at office politics. A few thoughts:

1. Always get people on your side as individuals before you try to get a decision made in a meeting. People are more sympathetic to your plight one one one than they are if you're the one upset guy trying to convince three or four people they're wrong. If you talk about it to each person beforehand, you know their hands and can play your hand rather than going to showdown blind.

2. Make each individual want to help you. Get on their good side. If nobody likes TTWC, she knows it. Just being nicer to her than everybody else is will get her on your side. If nobody really likes TAP, do the same. Give her a reason to take your side. Appeal to TNG's sense of fairness, or just become tighter with him because you both hate the other two. As for the principal, don't become a big headache for him. Explain your past to him, explain how you feel, but do it in a non-confrontational way. As soon as each individual is on your side, you get what you want in meetings.

3. Figure out how to make it easy for each person to help you. Figure out how to give them something in return. Fair or not, you are starting with nothing and have to figure out what to trade to get what you want.

4. Always take the high road. Don't lie to or double-cross anyone, and don't make enemies.
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Old 08-15-2006, 03:02 PM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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For your next gig, brush up on how to win at office politics. A few thoughts:

1. Always get people on your side as individuals before you try to get a decision made in a meeting. People are more sympathetic to your plight one one one than they are if you're the one upset guy trying to convince three or four people they're wrong. If you talk about it to each person beforehand, you know their hands and can play your hand rather than going to showdown blind.

2. Make each individual want to help you. Get on their good side. If nobody likes TTWC, she knows it. Just being nicer to her than everybody else is will get her on your side. If nobody really likes TAP, do the same. Give her a reason to take your side. Appeal to TNG's sense of fairness, or just become tighter with him because you both hate the other two. As for the principal, don't become a big headache for him. Explain your past to him, explain how you feel, but do it in a non-confrontational way. As soon as each individual is on your side, you get what you want in meetings.

3. Figure out how to make it easy for each person to help you. Figure out how to give them something in return. Fair or not, you are starting with nothing and have to figure out what to trade to get what you want.

4. Always take the high road. Don't lie to or double-cross anyone, and don't make enemies.

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i'm sure these are all great points, but i don't do politics well. most poeple love me, it's just the jackasses who don't. i have no interest in catering to jackasses, regarless of their position. life is too short.
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Old 08-15-2006, 03:11 PM
Senator_Thack Senator_Thack is offline
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You don't have to cater to them...just don't try to take on the whole herd of jackasses at once.

Also, most jackasses know others don't like them. All they want is someone who doesn't look at them like they're stupid all the time. Just being a touch more polite than everyone else that treats them like they're stupid will make them love you in time.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:55 AM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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emailed the below to the entire staff

After meeting with the administration and members of the science department
concerning scheduling, it has become clear that the science department is
moving in a different direction and that my talents are no longer needed or
wanted at XXX High School. In an effort to facilitate this
transition, I regret to announce that I am resigning my teaching position
effective immediately. I enjoyed my time at XXXX very much and am
proud of the work that I did reinvigorating the physics department. I wish
you all the best and am looking forward to new challenges.


PokerBob

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PokerBob, I'm sorry to hear that you don't think you fit into our plans at MHS.
We thought you would make a good fit and were looking forward to working
with you. Now that you've decided to take a different path, I want to wish
you the very best and most success in your future. The last thing we need
to do is to recover any keys to the building you may have and to ask you to
remove any personal effects from the building. Again, I hope you achieve
the success you hope for in your future.

Principal Dumdum
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:05 PM
MaxPower MaxPower is offline
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That a bold move Bob, but probably the right one for you.

Good luck
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:59 PM
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His reply sounds like your resignation wasn't unexpected.
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:05 PM
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Did you really sign them as Pokerbob? that'd be amazing
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:12 PM
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His reply sounds like your resignation wasn't unexpected.

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well, it shouldn't have been, as last week i told the superintendet that i likely was going to quit.= because of all of this BS.

part of me wants to respond to principal dumdum and say "If you really wanted to work with me, you would have worked with me." douche.
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:55 PM
RJT RJT is offline
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Did you really sign them as Pokerbob? that'd be amazing

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And did the Principal really sign his letter "Principal Dumdum"? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:01 PM
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His reply sounds like your resignation wasn't unexpected.

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well, it shouldn't have been, as last week i told the superintendet that i likely was going to quit.= because of all of this BS.

part of me wants to respond to principal dumdum and say "If you really wanted to work with me, you would have worked with me." douche.

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Just take the high road, you'll never really feel like you've had the last word with someone like that. I had an old news director like this, and I felt a lot better once I just gave up on trying to get some admission of fault, and moved on.

The please return your keys and remove personal effects is gold though.
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