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Old 04-26-2007, 06:29 PM
Archon_Wing Archon_Wing is offline
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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"i always try to make moves at the wrong time"

Seriously, I'm not trying to bash you or whatever, but there is absolutely no reason to make moves at 2nl. Honestly, I've never even played 2nl, but you should just bet your strong hands hard, never bluff, thats right never. This play is just tilt/spew.

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i do exactly as you describe and lose, i do what i did above one time and lose. im not sure what else to try. if i had won that hand, how many pats on the back would i get for "reading" villian. all of the comments you guys give me are results oriented to the point that it does no good to post crap here anymore. think what you want, i dont care anymore.

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First let me link you to these two things...
http://www.google.com/search?source=...wo.com+fgators
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...com+gambler2k4

Read and you'll realize how silly you're being. The guy in the 1st link, FGators, is not even a bad player, but gets ridiculed a lot because he is too stubborn to learn. The 2nd guy, well he pushed with KQ.

One thing I've noticed is that you don't pay attention to stack size. You cannot profitably shove stuff like AK and KQ for 200+ bb even if your opponent is a complete moron. Shortstacks are a bit diffrent. Try downloading pokerstove and finding out... KQ is about 60-40 against a RANDOM hand. If he shoves any broadway, any ace, any pocket pair, you're a coinflip to win. Thus, vs even a complete idiot this is questionable.

BTW, I haven't played poker for a while after getting pwned after I tried to move up. I'll make a 5 nl video so I can get a grasp on the basics again. Interested?
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:38 PM
Gelford Gelford is offline
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Default Re: I am9osing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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yet you continue on. perhaps my sarcasm detector is untuned,

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It is not quite, but slightly untuned ... there is no point in continuing this discussion. Poker is cruel .. you might be unlucky or you might not.

Log 100K hands, and we will have a good indication ... log 300K hands and we will know for sure.


Until then .... carry on, nothing to see here ... that is all.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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"i always try to make moves at the wrong time"

Seriously, I'm not trying to bash you or whatever, but there is absolutely no reason to make moves at 2nl. Honestly, I've never even played 2nl, but you should just bet your strong hands hard, never bluff, thats right never. This play is just tilt/spew.

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i do exactly as you describe and lose, i do what i did above one time and lose. im not sure what else to try. if i had won that hand, how many pats on the back would i get for "reading" villian. all of the comments you guys give me are results oriented to the point that it does no good to post crap here anymore. think what you want, i dont care anymore.

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First let me link you to these two things...
http://www.google.com/search?source=...wo.com+fgators
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...com+gambler2k4

Read and you'll realize how silly you're being. The guy in the 1st link, FGators, is not even a bad player, but gets ridiculed a lot because he is too stubborn to learn. The 2nd guy, well he pushed with KQ.

One thing I've noticed is that you don't pay attention to stack size. You cannot profitably shove stuff like AK and KQ for 200+ bb even if your opponent is a complete moron. Shortstacks are a bit diffrent. Try downloading pokerstove and finding out... KQ is about 60-40 against a RANDOM hand. If he shoves any broadway, any ace, any pocket pair, you're a coinflip to win. Thus, vs even a complete idiot this is questionable.

BTW, I haven't played poker for a while after getting pwned after I tried to move up. I'll make a 5 nl video so I can get a grasp on the basics again. Interested?

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i will read both of those threads. i do pay attention to stack size but have never seen anything about full stack vs full stack, just to be careful about short stacks and raising against them, especially if they are super loose as you may be facing a push at any given time.

im totally interested in a 5NL video. i have asked more than twice for regulars to make a 5NL video, 2-4 tables of TAG, perferrably on stars so that i can see what they are doing different than myself. no one ever wants to do it or the videos that were made a month or so ago were 10 minutes TAG and 10 minutes LAG which does me no good since they didnt get too many hands in.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

I may try to make a video Sunday for 30-45 mins if u really want to see it
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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I may try to make a video Sunday for 30-45 mins if u really want to see it

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Just for him or for anyone? Cause I'd watch it.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

Now show the hands where you made horrible bluffs and horrible calls, if you are losing a ton, there are def some
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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I am down 13 buyins at 25NL for the month. I am now playing 10NL because my bankroll is almost gone. Here are some nice ones from my last 900 hands (3 hours) at AP, which is rigged BTW.

KK vs QQ all in on turn, river Q for a $29.70 pot

KK vs A6 all in on turn, river A for a $26 pot

AA vs KK all in preflop, flop K for a $20 pot

J5s Button steal vs JT, flop JTJ, turn 5, we get it all in on river for a $20.70 pot.

jonnyy goes 40,000 hands with only 3 coolers, I can't make it 20 minutes. Last big pot I played at 25NL I had 33 and rivered a 2 outer to lose my stack on a 3-flush QTT23 board. I am literally losing a buyin within 20 minutes every other time I sit down.

I'm running at 2.17 PTBB/100 for the last 45,000 hands, which includes 0.38 PTBB/100 at 25NL over 17,000 hands and 3.3 PTBB/100 over 25,000 hands at 10NL. My winrate used to be around 10PTBB/100 back before the legislation. Then it dropped to 8, now it's down to ~6.

From 03/01 to now I'm up like $240 total from actual table play, and poker has basically been my only source of income. I will actually be busto playing microstakes if this doesn't turn around very soon. I would already be busto if I hadn't recently sold some stuff and gotten some odd jobs.

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Things will turn around. Just put effort in improving. Downswings are a reality that you have to deal with.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

Would anyone watch a video if i made it?

prob 6x NL$50...?
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:14 PM
Gelford Gelford is offline
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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Would anyone watch a video if i made it?

prob 6x NL$50...?

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Make it 4x 50NL ... experience has shown that six becomes too much.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

Hey relax wtf...


I push KQ all the time pf
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