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03-01-2007, 04:35 PM
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#222
03-01-2007, 05:13 PM
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No offense, but you need to update this. [/ QUOTE ] Can't now. Fantasy baseball draft. None taken anyways. As for Harrell, to me him and Pitcock are pretty close. They 're both about the same size. However, Pitcock ran every timed drill faster than Harrell (40 yard dash, bench press, broad jump). Harrell also didn't run a particularly good shuttle drill relative to other interior defensive lineman either. My picks at defensive lineman stand. Those top 5 at each position thing was pre-combine. Meachem should be #5 on that list (behind Johnson, Ginn, Bowe and Jarrett)
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#224
03-01-2007, 05:34 PM
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Do you see the Texans ditching Carr, picking up Plummer, and then trying to draft Brady Quinn at #8? Adrian Peterson won't still be there at #8, will he? [/ QUOTE ] That would be perfect. They'd have two QBs, a receiver and nothing else. They're such a mess I don't even know where they should begin. I wish they'd trade up and take Joe Thomas. Who do you think will pick up Carr as a backup with his pricetag?
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#225
03-01-2007, 07:20 PM
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Do you see the Texans ditching Carr, picking up Plummer, and then trying to draft Brady Quinn at #8? Adrian Peterson won't still be there at #8, will he? [/ QUOTE ] Carr's contract is too hefty to be moved somewhere. I can't see him starting in the NFL if moved elsewhere. It's a shame too. It's not entirely Carr's fault that he is not performing well. The guy was basically a tackling dummy for all defensive players for his entire NFL career. I'm surprised that he doesn't curl up into a fetal state any time a coach starts blitzing him. I cannot see Adrian Peterson dropping to Houston. The only way that happens is if Joe Thomas drops to Cleveland. The Browns will take Thomas and Peterson will drop to the Texans. Just about every team that has the chance to take Thomas should.
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#226
03-01-2007, 07:57 PM
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[ QUOTE ] No offense, but you need to update this. [/ QUOTE ] Can't now. Fantasy baseball draft. None taken anyways. As for Harrell, to me him and Pitcock are pretty close. They 're both about the same size. However, Pitcock ran every timed drill faster than Harrell (40 yard dash, bench press, broad jump). Harrell also didn't run a particularly good shuttle drill relative to other interior defensive lineman either. My picks at defensive lineman stand. Those top 5 at each position thing was pre-combine. Meachem should be #5 on that list (behind Johnson, Ginn, Bowe and Jarrett) [/ QUOTE ] Behind Johnson is the only one I'll say is clear cut. Meachem is more physical than Ginn and Bowe, while being faster than Bowe and has better hands than Ginn. With Jarrett's terrible times at the combine, I could actually see Meachem as #2 or #3, clearly behind CJ and behind Ginn by a hair. He's better than Bowe, and had a better combine than Jarrett. Harrell also is a bit rusty, with missing the last 10 games due to the bicep.
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#227
03-01-2007, 08:06 PM
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As a Vikings fan I would be thrilled to see us pick up Carr. 12.7mil over two years might be a bit of a reach, but I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be willing to rework his contract to go to another team if Plummer ends up in TX.
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#228
03-01-2007, 10:43 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No offense, but you need to update this. [/ QUOTE ] Can't now. Fantasy baseball draft. None taken anyways. As for Harrell, to me him and Pitcock are pretty close. They 're both about the same size. However, Pitcock ran every timed drill faster than Harrell (40 yard dash, bench press, broad jump). Harrell also didn't run a particularly good shuttle drill relative to other interior defensive lineman either. My picks at defensive lineman stand. Those top 5 at each position thing was pre-combine. Meachem should be #5 on that list (behind Johnson, Ginn, Bowe and Jarrett) [/ QUOTE ] Behind Johnson is the only one I'll say is clear cut. Meachem is more physical than Ginn and Bowe, while being faster than Bowe and has better hands than Ginn. With Jarrett's terrible times at the combine, I could actually see Meachem as #2 or #3, clearly behind CJ and behind Ginn by a hair. He's better than Bowe, and had a better combine than Jarrett. [/ QUOTE ] This is a very deep receiving class and aside from Calvin Johnson and (maybe) Ted Ginn, the others are a mixed bag. Dwayne Jarrett and Ted Ginn did not perform any drills at combine and opted for pro days. Thus, it's hard to get an exact top 5 as of now. If Jarrett runs a good 40 (less than 4.5) and shows off his supposedly great hands, he'll end up ahead of Meachem. However, rumors say that Jarrett may be able to run at best a 4.7 40, which means he would sink way out of the top 10 and out of the first round, maybe even the second round. If Ginn can follow through and run a ~4.30 40, he'll also be above Meachem. If my mock ends up being right, six receivers will be taken in the first round. The only two drafts that I think come close to or surpass this class in terms of WR depth would be the 2004 and 1988 draft classes. The latter class includes one current hall of famer (Michael Irvin) and two likely future Hall of Fame WRs (Tim Brown and Sterling Sharpe) and one very solid receiver (Anthony Miller). The former includes what many considered the best WR receiver prospect in NFL history, Larry Fitzgerald. So yeah, very deep receiving class.
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#229
03-01-2007, 10:51 PM
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The only two drafts that I think come close to or surpass this class in terms of WR depth would be the 2004 and 1988 draft classes. [/ QUOTE ] 1997: 1 N.Y. Jets Keyshawn Johnson WR Southern California 7 New England Terry Glenn WR Ohio State 18 St. Louis Eddie Kennison WR Louisiana State 19 Indianapolis Marvin Harrison WR Syracuse 24 Buffalo Eric Moulds WR Mississippi State 34 N.Y. Giants Amani Toomer WR Michigan 43 Carolina Muhsin Muhammad WR Michigan State 52 Chicago Bobby Engram WR Penn State 89 San Francisco Terrell Owens WR Tenn.-Chattanooga 135 Kansas City Joe Horn WR Itawamba JC
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#230
03-02-2007, 09:04 AM
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I should note that I was only referring to the first round of NFL drafts.
And yeah, but not all of those players were expected to have a major impact on the NFL coming out of college. Picks like Joe Horn and Terrell Owens were just major steals. On the other hand, every receiver picked in the earlier drafts I mentioned was expected to be a solid receiver. For a #1 overall pick, Keyshawn has been a bust. Terry Glenn and Eddie Kennison never quite lived up to expectations either. Moulds had a couple of good seasons, but has sunk a bit. The only two guaranteed Hall of Famers are T.O. and Marvin Harrison and only one of those two was a first round prospect. The other receivers are marginal at best.
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