how can this NOT be collusion?

[DeezNutz3]

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THIS IS TURNING INTO A SUPERGAY FORUM WAR

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ANYONE WANT TO GO ONTO STARS AND PLAY SOME 1/2 WITH WHAT IS 7X6 AND SHOW HIM HOW EASY IT SI TO BEAT A TEAM????

(joking)

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I'm in!

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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Baron,

I will start out by saying that i will adress your earlier points one by one after i get home, its too hard on the train.

But as for what you just wrote. No, you did not insult me. But you are a representative of the 2+2 board that did treat me exactly as i described. The same way that i have no respect for people who would be friends with someone who scams for a living, i have a hard time seeing you as anything other than a 2+2 representative. I knwo nothing of you personally, all i know is, you are a member of an online community of Liars, Braggards and Cowards, at least where i am concerned.

Cheating is Cheating even if both parties agree because the consequences of this asction reach far beyond the egos involved. If this wasa done between 4 peopel with nobody knowing, i would have no issue. YOu have accepted publicly, and im sure this would be followed publicly. Hence, the integrity of the game, which is already having issues with image and the US Governent, is on the line. Yes i am dramatizing, but i think my point is clear. By accepting this on a public forum instead of contacting dustin PRIVATELY, you have made it all of our business. We are all affected by this.

It doesnt matter that this want your idea. As a Player, ex student, ex financial analyst, associate and current VP, i would never accept such a challenge. WHat was the point of your comment? That you would accept a challenge to cheat cause you need the money? Or that oyu are about money? what does the financial analyst part have to do with anything?

Better hope you arent interviewing at my firm Barron

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a) I don't think that the public is quite as attuned to the politics of online message boards and the consequent challenges and games played as many people seem to think

b) I doubt many people would view this as cheating given that everybody knows that Neverwin is AWARE of his disadvantage and takes the risk anyway (they would say Neverwin is a moron, but most people don't have too big of a problem with a person knowingly taking a risk and being willing to suffer the consequences)

c) I don't see how Dcifrthis comes off as "only caring about money." Clearly Dcifrthis can plausibly say that he cares about money a lot, but not enough to act unethically. Given that Neverwin is consenting to being colluded against, it's not unethical to do it to him so the ethical considerations are not in play and now Dcifrthis can appropriately take action that will guarantee him money.

[NLSoldier]

Wow, I just checked out the neverwin forum for the first time. Those guys make the idiots in the WPT forum look like geniuses.

[Melchiades]

Making this challenge live instead of online is a horrible idea. Getting some sites approval is the only way.

[cracker9521]

I say don't even go through the trouble of getting the sites approval. Just find somewhere you can play a private play money table and transfer the funds when it is over.

[El Diablo]

cracker,

" Just find somewhere you can play a private play money table and transfer the funds when it is over. "

That sounds like a great idea.

[Vavavoom]

Cracker9521,

That was a great suggestion...


Limon,

El D said it first but I totally agree...


Also, the NWP forum does have some moronic posters over there...


Vava

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cracker,

" Just find somewhere you can play a private play money table and transfer the funds when it is over. "

That sounds like a great idea.

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You guys think NWP can be trusted to pay up when he loses?

[Case Closed]

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cracker,

" Just find somewhere you can play a private play money table and transfer the funds when it is over. "

That sounds like a great idea.

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You guys think NWP can be trusted to pay up when he loses?

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Put the money in a safe place in person then play online.

[citanul]

also, as far as i can tell, nw was saying he could take 2 online colluders, anytime anywhere, etc. clearly colluding is better online than live, as you have perfect information sharing in one and not nearly in the other.

while i have no doubt that nw is a very good 3 handed player, i do have doubts that he is the best 3 handed player in the world. however, saying he's the best 3 handed player in the world by a huge margin over 2 other very good players (let alone say, 2 of the other best shorthanded players in the world) is just ludicrous.

anyway, i think someone should email stars support and see if they can set something up, or full tilt. stars has shown a willingness to set up silly games on the side, and full tilt has shown a willingness to do almost anything for high stakes players.

i think the argument that such a game would hurt the overall integrity of the game is totally insane. having a table show up with the table name say "TWO GUYS CHEATING AN IDIOT WHO THINKS HE CAN BEAT 2 CHEATERS" isn't going to delude anyone about what's going on at the table. also, i don't think you can argue that the news about an online match of this sort is actually so much bigger than the news that would be following it (that it was a knowing contest of 2 on 1 nature) that anyone would leave going "omg, i can't believe there are cheaters everywhere o no!"

anyway, as limon said, cheating well is not easy, cheating profitably is not easy, and if you're an amateur at it, you're going to have trouble live. online cheating is far far easier and more profitable.

c