Never trust anyone pt. 2

[ursine cotcher]

Bah, you beat me to it Snag... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Methodz]

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there are so many different ways that rick could play it plus the chance of commerce going out of their way to show that an underage kid played at their casino for a week straight... there is NO way grim can get his money back via the police. a PI is his best bet and the only thing he should be considering.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah but the police could force them to look though the tapes for proof.

But yeah...if hes in Mexico[which is a very big possibility], chances of tracking him down are pretty slim.

[thatpfunk]

"Yeah but the police could force them to look though the tapes for proof. "

Rick- We flipped a coin for 150k, he still owes me 20k. Everyone knows Grim flips for a lot of money and he made up this story to get out of paying me the rest. Everyone knows hes a liar... etc etc etc.

[Triumph36]

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"Yeah but the police could force them to look though the tapes for proof. "

Rick- We flipped a coin for 150k, he still owes me 20k. Everyone knows Grim flips for a lot of money and he made up this story to get out of paying me the rest. Everyone knows hes a liar... etc etc etc.

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His story is [censored]. Rick didn't have $150K to his name. He also had $60k stuck in Neteller, which gives him motive as well.

Sorry, but the money is pretty obviously Grimstarr's - and PT would confirm as well. Why would Rick be sitting at 5/10 and Grimm at 25/50 w/ 35k in front? A staking agreement? Witnesses could be brought.

[TheMetetron]

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"Yeah but the police could force them to look though the tapes for proof. "

Rick- We flipped a coin for 150k, he still owes me 20k. Everyone knows Grim flips for a lot of money and he made up this story to get out of paying me the rest. Everyone knows hes a liar... etc etc etc.

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His story is [censored]. Rick didn't have $150K to his name. He also had $60k stuck in Neteller, which gives him motive as well.

Sorry, but the money is pretty obviously Grimstarr's - and PT would confirm as well. Why would Rick be sitting at 5/10 and Grimm at 25/50 w/ 35k in front? A staking agreement? Witnesses could be brought.

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Triumph,

I don't think you really know what you are talking about judging from your posts in this thread. Grim would have trouble getting the police to care enough to go after this guy. Any case is entirely circumstantial and has a very, very small chance of succeeding. Rick would be a retard to keep the laptop case or other stolen goods on him. If I were him, I wouldn't even have the money on me at this point.

That is all assuming this happened. PI is seriously Grimm's best bet, preferably one that doesn't mind breaking some laws for a cut.

[kylephilly]

When is grimm going to update this soap opera I'm a refresh maniac.

[ahnuld]

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"Yeah but the police could force them to look though the tapes for proof. "

Rick- We flipped a coin for 150k, he still owes me 20k. Everyone knows Grim flips for a lot of money and he made up this story to get out of paying me the rest. Everyone knows hes a liar... etc etc etc.

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His story is [censored]. Rick didn't have $150K to his name. He also had $60k stuck in Neteller, which gives him motive as well.

Sorry, but the money is pretty obviously Grimstarr's - and PT would confirm as well. Why would Rick be sitting at 5/10 and Grimm at 25/50 w/ 35k in front? A staking agreement? Witnesses could be brought.

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plus grim could call a million defendants. You guys are basically saying a theif robbing a house could just claim that he had lent all the stuff to the guy he robbed and too bad, no proof that thats not true

[onthebutton]

Grimm,

Too bad about your monies.

Were you pitching or catching on the night in question?

[Methodz]

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"Yeah but the police could force them to look though the tapes for proof. "

Rick- We flipped a coin for 150k, he still owes me 20k. Everyone knows Grim flips for a lot of money and he made up this story to get out of paying me the rest. Everyone knows hes a liar... etc etc etc.

[/ QUOTE ]They could also look through the tapes to see what Rick was playing, and they'd be able to tell he wouldn't be able to make that much in a week or however long they were there. Plus, why would he have 130k on him?

And I might be wrong, but they were staying at a motel right? So, wouldn't they be able to look at tapes seeing Rick randomly take everything he had and just leave, when the reservations didn't have them leaving for a few more days.

Plus, if Rick steals and then uses Grims phone to cancel the reservations, wouldn't that already make him look shady towards the police so his word wouldn't be as believeable.

[Jiggymike]

Why hasn't Grimm posted anything since the initial post? I kind of feel like he isn't putting any effort into getting this money back, he just wants to bitch about it. If you can afford it, I'd hire a P.I. with lots of experience/background and do it as soon as possible. If you can afford to have $130k stolen you can probably afford to front the guy a few bucks and promise him a nice cut when returned. Like someone else said, you have to be sure he doesn't steal the money himself but this way you will have a lot less legal issues to deal with (unless he kills the guy or something like that). You could get the cops involved but this might cause legal trouble for yourself (especially if it goes to the feds; local cops might decide to keep it as well since you are underage).

I'm inclined to believe Grimm from what I've heard about him (basically he's a little naive and just got duped on the whole thing) but I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to the story. If it was me, I would take action IMMEDIATELY (with that action being hiring a PI), not sure what Grimm is doing about it.