Neteller Update...

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2 months from now those supernova tournies are going to be VERY nice, wonder if PS will change the structure ?

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Has anyone from a poker site been arrested? Being the guys that move the money (Neteller) isn't exactly the same as being the guys that accept the money.

I was under the impression that the poker sites and their owners/ceos weren't doing anything illegal.

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Has anyone from a poker site been arrested? Being the guys that move the money (Neteller) isn't exactly the same as being the guys that accept the money.

I was under the impression that the poker sites and their owners/ceos weren't doing anything illegal.

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Where did you get that impression from?...

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I don't remember clearly enough to say that it was more than just an impression from all the 2+2 threads back in october.

Anyway, it's hard to believe that guys like Lederer (who has experience with this sort of thing i.e. New York) would put themselves in a position where they could be arrested if they enter the country. Could online poker have been so lucrative that they were willing to give up Las Vegas and never play another WSOP event?

Common sense says they must have given themselves some protection here.

[JayA]

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I don't remember clearly enough to say that it was more than just an impression from all the 2+2 threads back in october.

Anyway, it's hard to believe that guys like Lederer (who has experience with this sort of thing i.e. New York) would put themselves in a position where they could be arrested if they enter the country. Could online poker have been so lucrative that they were willing to give up Las Vegas and never play another WSOP event?

Common sense says they must have given themselves some protection here.

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That's what I would hope too. I can let you know when I find out. But since he's part owner and founder of Full Tilt...Idk. I'm not sure on the exacts of if anything could happen to him.

[JayA]

Did I just kill the thread? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Dennisa]

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So who's the mostly likely target from Poker Stars for the feds to nab next? Are any of their execs in the country? Any former founders? Lee Jones isn't the most Costa Rican sounding name I ever heard. Maybe they'll just go after his family like the Mafia does. Raymer/Moneymaker/Hachem safe?

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If the DOJ wants to make a big headline and hurt poker, then they will try to seize thrid party payments from online pokersites for the 2007 WSOP. I would guess Harrah's would comply.

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Hi all,

Just had a chat with Neteller, and wanted to share. Dont know if anyone is in my situation, so take it for what its worth.

My situation is I had deposited $5000 on Sunday, the money is no longer in my bank account but the EFT is still pending. No sweat, this usually takes a week, but wanted to check whether there would be a problem....last answer is not encouraging.

Marcella: Hello.
xxx: Hello Marcella
Marcella: We are experiencing some major delays right now.
xxx: OK, Im talking about the transaction I made on Sunday where the money has already left my bank account.
xxx: Will that $5,000 still appear in my Neteller account in a reasonable timeframe given the money has left my account? Understand that there are delays around withdrawals right now.
xxx: Are you still there?
Marcella: Sorry, I cannot say when the funds will reach your NETeller account. We are trying our best to get some answers.
xxx: Where is the money then? Because the funds have already left my bank account. Is there any way to reverse the transaction?
Marcella: Unfortunately we cannot reverse right now. We are wiating for updates.
xxxx: Wow. OK, so I just dont have my $5000 then, that's unfortunate.
xxxxx: Is the problem that third-party processors will not do business with Neteller right now or is there a liquidity issue?
Marcella: You can view any updates at http://updates.neteller.com.
xxxxx: Yeah, Ive read that, none of that helps answer my question. Frustrating, I know you guys are in a tough spot here, but frustrating on my end since the money is out of my account and is apparantly going to disapper into the ether.
Marcella: We don't know what is going to happen at this point. We are waiting for updates.
xxxxx: Can you assure me I will be paid in full?
Marcella: I cannot make any promises.

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wtf..

[Leader]

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The whole case against these two NT guys is about a bet on an NFL game for example.

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Leader, I suggest you read the full complaint...

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"whole case" was incorrect phrasing. What I meant was that it was only peripherally about poker and that the specific transaction the government is citing as the basis of the case is a sports betting one, which exemplifies the point that the government sees this much more as a sports betting issue then a poker issue. So the next company they go after is likely to be a sports book or online casino and not Pokerstars.

[JayA]

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"whole case" was incorrect phrasing. What I meant was that it was only peripherally about poker and that the specific transaction the government is citing as the basis of the case is a sports betting one, which exemplifies the point that the government sees this much more as a sports betting issue then a poker issue. So the next company they go after is likely to be a sports book or online casino and not Pokerstars.

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Makes sense. Seems like poker is just being thrown around in the middle of all of this. =\