The Vegetarian Torture

[CallMeIshmael]

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Good one.
I'll never understand why meat eaters hate vegetarians. just eat your steak and shut up already.

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Paluka,

I feel most people (though I cant speak for anyone but me) dont hate vegetarians at all. On top of that, I feel the post you recently made (about doing the little things) was quite right. I agree we should do the little things do try to make the world a better place.

For me personally, I dont think eating meat is morally wrong. I have no problems with an animal dying if it is in the interest of feeding another animal, regardless of whether or not that animal could survive solely on non-animal food products. This is my moral opinion, and it cannot be objectively wrong. Nor, can I tell you that your opinion (im assuming, though I dont want to put words in your mouth) that eating animals is morally wrong is objectively wrong.


However, people hate vegetarians who go around trying to impose THEIR moral values on others. Elaine has said in this thread she is pro-choice. Some people find that morally wrong, REGARDLESS of whether or not she actually partakes in the abortion. Im sure she wouldnt want those people trying to impose their morals on her, calling her a murderer when she sees nothing morally wrong with being pro-choice, and I think she should show the meat eaters of the world the same respect.

We have absolutely no problem with YOUR brand of vegetarianism (perhaps other than a few shots from diablo), its when Elaine trys to impose her subjective morals on us that we have problems.

[Paluka]

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People would be less abrasive if certain vegetarians didn't waste time with accusations about the normal American diet. You have 0% chance of changing our minds.

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This is absolutely untrue. I have three or four friends who became vegetarian recently because they did, in fact, have their minds changed. I'm not sure what changed their mind, I'm not much of a vegetarian preacher myself, but will talk about it if asked.

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Honestly I know of no guy (male) that eats a regular amount of meat that would quit out of the blue. And that's where it's often been brought up:

Go to eat w/ an Indian kid. You order a cheeseburger, he orders a tofu burger. You laugh (this is the correct play). At the table he starts explaining to you the reason he being a vegetarian is so good, blah blah, blah. It's like STFU.

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So you want to bring attention to the point that he is a vegetarian, but forbid him to actually talk about it? Are you a fan of the O'Reilly Factor? I'm guessing yes.
Every vegetarian I know ate a normal meat filled diet at some point, by the way.

[El Ishmael]

I don't want to hear about. You're not going to convince me, and I'm not going to relentlessly tease you, but of course I'm going to make a comment about it. IT IS WEIRD. I could not imagine going by ONE DAY without eating meat, so for me to picture a guy that eats tofu, fruit, and rice all day, it's amusing.

[Paluka]

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I don't want to hear about. You're not going to convince me, and I'm not going to relentlessly tease you, but of course I'm going to make a comment about it. IT IS WEIRD. I could not imagine going by ONE DAY without eating meat, so for me to picture a guy that eats tofu, fruit, and rice all day, it's amusing.

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Then we can call it even between us, because I find morons amusing. You seriously sound like a 12 year old. "I can't imagine ONE DAY!"

[El Ishmael]

I know I sounded like a 12-year-old. Didn't mean to come off that way, but it's quite amusing.

People who think that by not eating meat they are making any difference in the long run are just ignorant. You're like the people who advocate world peace. Wars will always happen, and man will always be eating meat as long as time goes on. Thinking that because you're eating vegetables only, you're making some huge difference, is retarded.

[Paluka]

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I know I sounded like a 12-year-old. Didn't mean to come off that way, but it's quite amusing.

People who think that by not eating meat they are making any difference in the long run are just ignorant. You're like the people who advocate world peace. Wars will always happen, and man will always be eating meat as long as time goes on. Thinking that because you're eating vegetables only, you're making some huge difference, is retarded.

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You are quite an inspiration to the kids out there. Remember children, one person can't make a difference! So pollute, litter, steal whatever...as only one person you can't add up to much. And why not be a racist, if you don't treat those pesky minorities badly, someone else will.

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I don't want to hear about. You're not going to convince me, and I'm not going to relentlessly tease you, but of course I'm going to make a comment about it. IT IS WEIRD. I could not imagine going by ONE DAY without eating meat, so for me to picture a guy that eats tofu, fruit, and rice all day, it's amusing.

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I once shared a house with a fruitarian. That wasn't amusing. He had to have his own seperate fridge for his fruit. He would make fruit curries to try and make his life more interesting. All he ever spoke about was fruit. One day we freaked him out when we convinced him that the banana is not a fruit but a herb. I used to enjoy eating kebabs in front of him. He was a high school maths teacher. Guiding youthful minds. Jesus.

[Paluka]

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I don't want to hear about. You're not going to convince me, and I'm not going to relentlessly tease you, but of course I'm going to make a comment about it. IT IS WEIRD. I could not imagine going by ONE DAY without eating meat, so for me to picture a guy that eats tofu, fruit, and rice all day, it's amusing.

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I once shared a house with a fruitarian. That wasn't amusing. He had to have his own seperate fridge for his fruit. He would make fruit curries to try and make his life more interesting. All he ever spoke about was fruit. One day we freaked him out when we convinced him that the banana is not a fruit but a herb. I used to enjoy eating kebabs in front of him. He was a high school maths teacher. Guiding youthful minds. Jesus.

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I like fruit, but that doesn't sound too healthy.

[El Ishmael]

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I know I sounded like a 12-year-old. Didn't mean to come off that way, but it's quite amusing.

People who think that by not eating meat they are making any difference in the long run are just ignorant. You're like the people who advocate world peace. Wars will always happen, and man will always be eating meat as long as time goes on. Thinking that because you're eating vegetables only, you're making some huge difference, is retarded.

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You are quite an inspiration to the kids out there. Remember children, one person can't make a difference! So pollute, litter, steal whatever...as only one person you can't add up to much. And why not be a racist, if you don't treat those pesky minorities badly, someone else will.

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There are situations in which people can make a difference and those in which people can't. You know pretty well that nothing in your grandchildren's lifetime will ever seriously mitigate huge meat consumption in the world. Racism/pollution will never end either but they have possible ways to lessen the harm.

[CallMeIshmael]

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And why not be a racist

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Clearly, you are unfamiliar with his posting history