32K pot against Bld with 8 high? toughest decision I've ever had!

[NLSoldier]

sam,

If villian has a set, and you think your hand looks just like AA, is there any chance he would not make such a big bet on the river?

This actually has me thinking about the possibility that HE is bluffing with 86 or 64...

[samoleus]

Haha good catch citanul. In actuality, I really did not consider much other than a set for him. And it didn't matter that much becase my 8 high doesn't have any showdown value no matter what he has.

[samoleus]

I don't think he would really put me on AAA until and unless I pull the trigger. Too many other hands I can have (two pair, straight draw, KK, etc)

[Requin]

Sam, do you think Bld would bet this river with 22 or 55?

[NLSoldier]

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I don't think he would really put me on AAA until and unless I pull the trigger. Too many other hands I can have (two pair, straight draw, KK, etc)

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even for someone as LAG as you, its pretty hard to make 2 pair on that board. As far as KK, seems like he would bet a little less on the river if he was trying to entice a call. I guess he can have you on 22 or 55 though if he has 77.

[samoleus]

absolutely. Bld is not the type to leave value on the table. He could fold that to a raise though if he can be convinced that I have 77, JJ, AA, or 3-4.

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

he would expect u to raise turn a huge amt of the time with jj and these stacks.

[samoleus]

A very good point Jason. The stack sizes were deep enough there (and two to a backdoor flush in addition to the straight draw had arrived). I will often slowplay JJJ on the turn in a situation like this, but the stacks were too deep for that here.

[samoleus]

well I had 8-6. Could I not have 7-5?

And I don't think Bld's style is to make smaller milking bets. He keeps his bet sizes pretty standard which make them harder to read.

I do the same thing. You will hardly ever see me bet less than 2/3 of the pot or more than 4/5 (usually 3/4) no matter what I am betting.

[samoleus]

Strassa, if you hold 77 in Bld's spot and I push, do you make the call? What if you have 22? (you can answer in both cases: a quick push and using my whole time bank).