Lack of known pros left in the WPT championship

[Jourdain]

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Yup, Doyle, Deeb, Hellmuth, Chan, Baxter, Hoff busted out yesterday.

I have no clue who these people are, except for Antonius and Sunar.

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http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...?a=r&n=184

i really suggest you take a look at this, arguably the most successful tournament player of all time

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Yes yes, sorry didn't saw his name listed

[nath]

I recognized about 1/2 the names at a glance, which seems about right for a tournament.
Just because they don't have a big TV appearance yet doesn't mean they aren't a known pro, after all.

[NickMPK]

Yeah, I don't know what happened yesterday. Deeb, Hellmuth, Chan, David Williams, and Evelyn Ng all at the top of the board yesterday, and they all blew it.

Men the Master was Cardplayer PoY last year, so he's obviously a big name that everyone should know. Does anyone think he is cheating now? But in any case, he doesn't have enough chips to make the final table no matter how good he is.

[Shady Poker]

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Men the Master is also arguably the most comprehensively discredited of all the well-known players in the game today.

He survived the alleged "tournament chips found in the hotel suite" incident, only because the game had so little media exposure at the time that it occured.

I have no doubt that if such an incident were to occur today, the player involved would be banned for life from all tournament play.

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Just out of curiousity was this the only record of his cheating in some way or were there other incidents in the past? If so, what where they?

[cbloom]

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Just out of curiousity was this the only record of his cheating in some way or were there other incidents in the past? If so, what where they?

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He's widely suspected of using chip-dumping teams. I'm not sure what hard evidence there is if any, but it's pretty accepted that he has done so.

[Nick B.]

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Just out of curiousity was this the only record of his cheating in some way or were there other incidents in the past? If so, what where they?

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Somewhere deep in the RGP archives Negreanu called out MtM, if you search for it, I am sure you could find it.


From the link:
Daniel Negreanu;

"n 98', after I won a bracelet and had some money, both Men and I
put Nhut Tran into a limit hold'em event, each putting up half the
money. Down to three tables, Men had a moster stack, while Nhut only
had 4 small bets left. Men raised in 1st position, and everyone
folded to Nhut. Who then re-raised it to three bets. When the bet
came back to Men, he had to call one small bet, as well as one more
small bet to get Nhut all-in...he FOLDED! That alone is a cardinal
sin by any competent player, that should have been punished, but
wasn't. "

[okterrific]

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In a tournament that is highly respected and played up as one of the tournaments pros are supposed to excell in, I am surprised at the lack of name pros on the leaderboard at this point.


James Van Alstyne - $4,235,000
Roland De Wolfe - $3,325,000
Carlos Zambrano - $2,985,000
Victor Ramdin - $2,685,000
Joseph Bartholdi - $2,350,000
Paul Wasicka - $2,245,000
Erica Schoenberg - $1,735,000
Simon Moussa - $1,695,000
Vanessa Rousso - $1,575,000
Cliff Josephy - $1,255,000
David Matthew- $1,200,000
Espen Saltnes - $1,130,000
Claus Nielson - $940,000
Gary Maresh - $905,000
Valentino Morella - $525,000
Chad Brown - $485,000
Patrik Antonius - $450,000
Men The Master Nguyen - $375,000
Surinder Sunar - $120,000



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Thats 8 out of 19 that are accomplished tourney pros. try again

[thedarknight]

u forgot vanessa rousso..she has her own agent/manager...so she has to be an accomplished tourney pro

[okterrific]

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u forgot vanessa rousso..she has her own agent/manager...so she has to be an accomplished tourney pro

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I go by # of tourneys cashed in and total earnings(easy enough). So no shes not there yet.

[CardSharpCook]

And Carlos Zambrano who has managed to take time off from his busy schedule of pitching for the Chicago Cubs. WHAT A GUY!!!