Questionable river fold

[Nietzsche]

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obviously u are usually beat, but cant villain have a lower flush (i.e. 86, 56) at least once in 21 times?

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I estimate a lower flush + the idiot factor = a 1.5BB mistake. Usually I will see 44 or a higher flush, sometimes KJ as some TAGs will limp with this after two limpers.

[Nietzsche]

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preflop is horrible, this is a very weak hand you need the button it doesnt matter how loose passive the table might be. If it was T9s or 98s fair enough but not weak one gappers.

who knows what you are thinking on the river, save the world class folds for world class players. He may have something like AA or AK KQ even.

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He limped preflop so those are not a possibility. My own preflop limp is definitely questionable with two aggressive TAGs to act behind me. UTG was a nice passive fish though so I don't think it is big mistake.

[helpmeout]

Not all TAGs play the same, some do some pretty weird [censored].

Doesnt matter how bad UTG is your hand is cheese, you are seriously overvaluing it if you think limping here isnt much of a mistake.

[Keystone]

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I am the only one who folds this PF from MP?

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I would fold this preflop unless I was in a game with horrible players who were generally passive, but I didnt want to be a preflop nit