An unpleasant overcall.

[Alexisonfyre]

This is a fold. What do you think MP1 has here? AKQJ6 of clubs are out of the deck, I doubt that he calls the river with anything worse than a FH here.

I don't really care about SB, he could bet here with just about anything, I'm more concerned about MP1 who called the 3-bet on the flop...

[MacGuyV]

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I think your flop raise blows chunks out of my ass.

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Not trying for a free card here?

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Not when I'm at a laggy table where I may not get it and I have to face 2 other players behind me with 2 cold. You want overcallers.

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i gotta disagree with you here.

2 people are in. 2 people are yet to act. simply calling gets us 2 more sb if they both call. raising gets us 2sb since the 2 who are already in will never fold.

but the table is laggy, so people might just call 2 cold, or someone might 3-bet letting us cap. i want to give them that chance and build a huge pot.

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Good point - I see I post about as well as I play at 3am.

[Eeegah]

I'm trying to remember what my mode of thinking was on the flop. I was partially looking for an edge push with my raise, as well as a free card; wasn't sure if it'd be strictly for value but with the chance of a free card adding to it I figured what the hell.

The check/3bet worried me. Dude's a bit too passive to be doing that with a lower draw, so it smelled either of 66 or an A high draw (he was aggro enough preflop to 3bet AA/QQ PF). Either way my equity just went down quite a bit; either my flush draw's a loser or I'm up against a ten-outer even if I hit on the turn. Probably MUBS on my part but SB's raise rather jostled me.

I called the river; probably a full 1BB mistake. Stupid Eeegah. SB had 66, MP had a Q.

Anyway, there's my most embarrasing hand of the night [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Buzz-cp]

I fold the river. we're rarely good.

[andyEB]

Good analysis on the raise. My first thought was 20 BB's to call this river -- probably much more at a less LAGGY table.

[drzen]

Grunch.

Cap the flop. Fold the river. May Ed Miller have mercy on my soul but if I'm not beat here, I don't know when I'm ever going to be. MP could have nothing much but SB has to have hit the flop with your read.

What odds would I want to call it? A big enough pot would have meant more action on flop and turn, so I'd be even surer I was beat here. But I don't think I'd ever fold a pot, even if I was absolutely sure I was beaten, that offered 20 to 1 for a single bet.

[OXIO]

Grunch:

Well if "Three-bettor's nothing special but a bit more passive than he should be postflop" i dont really see what your possible flush beats on the turn, that villain might have? What would he 3 bet on the flop? AQ? 66? nut FD? Would you consider him doing this with some Ax or low FD?

If not, then i dont realy see a reason to call the turn. MUBS? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] If you think he would be doing this with some random Ax or lower FD sometimes, then call the turn and fold this river.