push or wait?

[Ansky]

I tend to shy away from restealing from people who open for 4x, but this case is a bit different because you actually have a decent hand.

A lot of considerations going into this hand are not just your read on him, and his read on you, but also table conditions. I tend to be less of a push monkey if the players to my left have the right stack sizes, and/or are weakish tightish. However this is a stars 50r, so the level of play by now should be fairly decent. In a vacuum I think I like the play, but a lot of the above factors could sway it to being -EV ish.

Hm, I just noticed you weren't a blind, which makes me like it more, since it looks stronger, and there is more dead money up for grabs. I'd actually go as far as to say that barring a read this is a push, not the other way around. However like I said, for a lot of ppl, a 4x raise means "I like my hand so much that I'm gonna open for 1 more blind than is standard, then auto call an all in!" For some ppl that means AA, for others it means AJo. So yeah, I still like it in the end.

[A_PLUS]

I started a new thread with my view on this type of play. I started to respond and got a little carried away.