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Old 03-10-2006, 03:18 PM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Default Re: 9Ts vs LAG

Option 1) Lead out the flop and 3-bet mason all-in

Option 1A) c/c flop and check raise all-in a safe turn.

Just mix those two plays up and throw in a min-raise here and there and mason won't know what hit him [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:27 PM
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check raise the flop and catch mason in the middle.

that board is very pretty. There is a high likely hood of you checking, villain betting, mason raising with his combo draw/2 pair and or isolation, then you push.

or if mason floats villain's flop bet, you make a substantial raise on top.

People will suggest lead, 3bet, but because villain's range is so wide preflop, its unlikely he has a TP+ hand here and thus he might not raise. This is a very good flop for lead, 3bet if villain's preflop raise range is narrow to premium hands but because villain's range is so wide, therefore he is less likely to raise you on the flop if you lead it.
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:29 PM
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amoeba,

Interesting point. If orange is certain that villain is going to throw out a PSB then I change my answer to your line.
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:31 PM
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check raise the flop and catch mason in the middle.

that board is very pretty. There is a high likely hood of you checking, villain betting, mason raising with his combo draw/2 pair and or isolation, then you push.

or if mason floats villain's flop bet, you make a substantial raise on top.

People will suggest lead, 3bet, but because villain's range is so wide preflop, its unlikely he has a TP+ hand here and thus he might not raise. This is a very good flop for lead, 3bet if villain's preflop raise range is narrow to premium hands but because villain's range is so wide, therefore he is less likely to raise you on the flop if you lead it.

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this is exactly what i told orange
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:32 PM
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check raise the flop and catch mason in the middle.

that board is very pretty. There is a high likely hood of you checking, villain betting, mason raising with his combo draw/2 pair and or isolation, then you push.

or if mason floats villain's flop bet, you make a substantial raise on top.

People will suggest lead, 3bet, but because villain's range is so wide preflop, its unlikely he has a TP+ hand here and thus he might not raise. This is a very good flop for lead, 3bet if villain's preflop raise range is narrow to premium hands but because villain's range is so wide, therefore he is less likely to raise you on the flop if you lead it.

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this is exactly what i told orange

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ditto
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:31 PM
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People will suggest lead, 3bet, but because villain's range is so wide preflop, its unlikely he has a TP+ hand here and thus he might not raise. This is a very good flop for lead, 3bet if villain's preflop raise range is narrow to premium hands but because villain's range is so wide, therefore he is less likely to raise you on the flop if you lead it.

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good point - nh
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:34 PM
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that board is very pretty. There is a high likely hood of you checking, villain betting, mason raising with his combo draw/2 pair and or isolation, then you push.



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This would be the ideal happenstance.

If villian bets, and Mason calls, then I wouldn't mind a call, and planned turn c/r.
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:50 PM
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I'll post results when mason responds. Should take him a while because he's an idiot. jk mason, you know your mah dawwgg [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:59 PM
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that board is very pretty. There is a high likely hood of you checking, villain betting, mason raising with his combo draw/2 pair and or isolation, then you push.



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This would be the ideal happenstance.

If villian bets, and Mason calls, then I wouldn't mind a call, and planned turn c/r.

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Really? Seems to me a lot of cards you don't want to see fall on the turn here. Any spade, an Ace or a T, heck a K,Q,J isn't pretty.
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Old 03-10-2006, 04:15 PM
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that board is very pretty. There is a high likely hood of you checking, villain betting, mason raising with his combo draw/2 pair and or isolation, then you push.



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This would be the ideal happenstance.

If villian bets, and Mason calls, then I wouldn't mind a call, and planned turn c/r.

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Really? Seems to me a lot of cards you don't want to see fall on the turn here. Any spade, an Ace or a T, heck a K,Q,J isn't pretty.

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I agree.
This hand is good but very vulnerable.
Slowplaying a vulnerable hand in a multiway pot is asking for trouble.
CR flop.
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