Is a flop bet mandated here?

[Eeegah]

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You likely wont fold out everyone but can clean up some outs.

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No you can't. Anyone who has you reverse dominated easily has odds to call the flop, and no one has a better A or Q. So do gutshots. Flush draws ain't folding either. The only outs you have a chance of cleaning up are a long A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], but that's not hugely unlikely.

[OziBattler]

Eegah, you make a good point! yeah, a 5 outer should call here....I still kinda like giving a 6 or 4 with a crappy kicker a chance to fold

so how many outs are we giving our hero here?

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The flop is rather coordinated, and doesn't give you a ton of promising outs. We've gotta discount our TP outs for the flush and reverse domination, our backdoor Flush is only to the 3rd nut flush, and with a one card flush and 4 others in this is not very strong. Our Back Door Straight draw is a two gapper and is worth very little.

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nh sir. the above is very well put and presents a very good case for not betting the flop. I think I just flip flopped [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Eeegah]

I dunno, figure the standard 3 for overcards, 1.5 for da flush and BDSD after discount, so 4.5 outs.

I think we need the free card more than the other five of them combined, so check.

[bozlax]

Responding blind: yes

Having read the post: yes

[CaucasianAsian29]

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I would be betting the flop

[Eeegah]

By the way the hand history is messed up. Did the SB openfold the flop or something?

[Str8Fish]

This is part of my game that I am seriously working on. In this case, I check the flop. There's too many people to bet into.

[sccrneo]

When the flop is checked to you, bet and see what happens. You have two overs plus a backdoor straight draws. You have a chance to pick up the pot(unlikely) but any folds increases your chances of winning. The flop bet also likely sets up a free card on the turn if you miss. If you have only one or two callers on the flop, I probably bet the turn again hoping to fold the field. When you get the inevitable call on the turn. Just check behind on the river and laugh when he shows his bottom pair.

If you are check-raised on the flop. I call and fold turn UI.

[Pocket3's]

Bet the flop. You may knock out a couple, and possibly get a free card.

[Aaron W.]

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In retrospect, I wish I had bet the flop (overcards and inside flush draw), but with that many callers preflop, I figured there was a high chance for a check-raise slowplay or turn-card danger from someone. Any thoughts?

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Did you figure that based on the number of players in the pot, or based on the playing styles of villains?

In passive games, go ahead and bet the flop and take the free card on the turn. In more aggressive games, taking the free card on the flop is better.

And a check-raise is not a slowplay.