K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?

[neurotiq]

336 hands is not a large enough sample size to draw any conclusions.

As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

[Xhad]

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3-bet the turn. this is a blind war.

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Look at the stats again, there's a good chance villain doesn't notice or care.

Hand 2: check river, fold as played.

[Xhad]

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As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

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it's probably closer to a raise than a fold

[maverickai]

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As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

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it's probably closer to a raise than a fold

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So you're saying, we check/raise to cause villian to fold? Why so? If villian has a spade, he'll definitely call, and we lose 2 bets. why not just check call?

[Bulletproof Monk]

jesus christ that 2nd hand is bad...

hand 1 - i call the turn to play perfectly on river, we still get to raise when we make our flush. dont fold ever ever ever

hand 2 - dont bet the river, dont call the river raise

[Xhad]

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As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

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it's probably closer to a raise than a fold

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So you're saying, we check/raise to cause villian to fold? Why so? If villian has a spade, he'll definitely call, and we lose 2 bets. why not just check call?

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wrong hand, reread the statement I was responding to

[maverickai]

Xhad, why would raise be good with K9s preflop in the button? This is a very marginal hand, I thought calling would be good to see what the flop brings us. I dun really see how a raise would be of value. Those who limped could have you dominated easily with some KT+, or Ax.

[beyazkus]

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the so common check/call flop, check/raise turn scenario... after the river it is common to see that he either had a big hand preflop but slowplayed it, or did actually flop something big but chose to wait the turn to raise...

a little timing tell here, when the op quickly raises the turn I have noticed that it raises the chance that he is playing something that he had preflop or flopped rather than turned... surely not quite reliable, but just an observation...

but in this scenario i think there is a worthwhile possiblity that he picked up a flush draw while pairing his queen and bet as a semi-bluff and bluff bet the river with his queens to make a call on the river profitable... if he has a king your are surely beat, you are beat to his possible straight but your king top pair may be good at least 12% to make it worthwhile to call...


ps. folding to the turn raise is out of the question as you picked up a second nut flush draw with a weak gutshot straight draw and have the odds to continue...

[Martina]

If I were in the situation, I probably would call the flop, check/call the turn and the river.

Would fold the flop be an acceptable play since it is a monotone board?

[Xhad]

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Xhad, why would raise be good with K9s preflop in the button? This is a very marginal hand, I thought calling would be good to see what the flop brings us. I dun really see how a raise would be of value. Those who limped could have you dominated easily with some KT+, or Ax.

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They could, but probably don't. I like limping best of all (I said raise > fold, I don't think either is correct in this spot) but against very loose ranges you can win pairing either card and you have flush value + position (which can lead to you taking a free card on the flop or turn if you want it). I just got done posting in a thread in small stakes where a good player raised in this type of spot in a 10/20 game with 98s.