NL200, QQ, what to do preflop?

[ElDuque]

Re-pot or fold. This all depends on your read on your opponents as well as your aversion to variance.

Although, I'd be surprised to see TT, JJ or AQ look you up.

Calling is bad, bad, bad. What happens when UTG shoves? Or what happens when UTG overcalls and the flop come 9-high? Good luck making the correct decision these spots.

[4_2_it]

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I just think in my head "lololol wtf" and shove.

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heh, almost my exact thought.

[Zagga]

6-handed: fold
4-handed: push

[ikestoys]

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6-handed: push
4-handed: push

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seriously

theres so much dead money you can't fold here.

i also think this is a great time for something like a 2.5x raise

[Fousekis]

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Re-pot or fold. This all depends on your read on your opponents as well as your aversion to variance.

Although, I'd be surprised to see TT, JJ or AQ look you up.

Calling is bad, bad, bad. What happens when UTG shoves? Or what happens when UTG overcalls and the flop come 9-high? Good luck making the correct decision these spots.

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Well, I agree with this 100%, but you can't just reply "re-pot or fold depending on reads". He said he thinks SB's money is dead 90% of the time and the other two guys are unknown. These are his reads. What do you suggest?

Personally I shove for the following reasons

1. Read on the SB
2. 4 handed game, open raise and re-raise standards are low
3. 3bet came from the BTN

[Montezuma21]

GRUNCH:

I don't mind a push right here. 4 handed the BTN is squeezing a large enough range to make a push +EV IMO

[ikestoys]

seriously, the more i think about it, the more i like a minraise

[Fousekis]

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6-handed: push
4-handed: push

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seriously

theres so much dead money you can't fold here.

i also think this is a great time for something like a 2.5x raise

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4 handed I agree.

6 handed I don't agree, I'd fold it for the following reasons

1. UTG raise 6 handed is relatively tight range, if I get a call its a big hand.
2. BTN 3bet vs UTG raise is an even tighter range for an unknown.
3. Huge [censored] variance. I can wait for a better spot, with hopefully some reads on the two unknowns.

A x2.5 raise commits you so you are going all-in no matter what happens afterwards. I prefer a shove here as it makes out hand look weaker than it is.

[Fousekis]

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seriously, the more i think about it, the more i like a minraise

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WTF? I think I am missing something here, what does minraising achieve? You know that some donk (probably the SB) is just going to just call again with his ATs ...

[ikestoys]

dude, its a CO raise 6 handed, not UTG