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Old 09-26-2007, 09:29 PM
VayaConDios VayaConDios is offline
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...and of its allies and spiritual predecessors.

This is why I don't think Iran can be allowed to get The Bomb. Not that Iran would be likely to use it directly, but because it's goal is quite literally the extermination of the Jewish race: the same goal as the head of Nasrallah, head of Hezbollah and ally of Iran; the same goal as the earlier Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, al-Husseini; the same goal as Sayid Qutb, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani want genocide, plain and simple. That doesn't mean they will actually DO it but this is what these guys have STATED and what they BELIEVE (edit: Rafsanjani and Ahmadinejad have stated it a bit more obliquely or less explicitly than some of the others but it is still pretty clear what they are saying).

I'm aware that the USA has greatly erred in Iraq and that Iran may legitimately feel threatened. Iran's regime's political goals and spiritual goals ARE opposed to nearly every Western ideal of freedom and human and civil rights. Iran wants to export and expand its "Islamic Revolution", and the USA is of course opposed to that. Iran is sandwiched militarily at the moment from all sides. So Iran is quite understandably feeling threatened.

All that is small, IMO, compared to the following. It is absolutely terrifying what these guys think.

I've posted many statements by Ahmadinejad before. The following video gives recent and historical quotes of others as well, and insight into the much larger picture: the picture of genocidal plans, genocidal desires and genocidal ideology.

The aims of today's Iranian regime, their allies, and jihadists worldwide include the extermination of the Jews. The historical connection to carrying on Hitler's work is outlined too, from Grand Mufti al-Husseini's plans to build a Middle Eastern Auschwitz, to Egypt's second-largest newspaper's praise of Hitler's vengeance against the Jews (the only regret is that Hitler didn't go far enough), to modern quotes of various Middle Eastern religious leaders, and more.


Video: THE ISLAMIC MEIN KAMPF


Thanks for reading.

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How much do you get paid to spread this propaganda? Serious question.

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It's rather amazing to me that anyone can read the quotes of Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani, Khomeini, Nasrallah, al-Bannar, Sayyid Qutb, and many others: ALL of which believe the Jews are responsible for the ills of the world and want to have an Israel-free, Jew-free world, and then you think I am spreading propaganda.

Read the quotes, and please, get your head out of the ether.

This is regrettably one of the few times I've felt like being rude on this forum, but people are repeatedly espousing GENOCIDE, yet you (and Bobman) think cataloguing and presenting that is propaganda. Was it the music that threw you guys off, perhaps? Read the quotes and tell us you don't think they're in favor of genocide. Or turn down your audio and don't even listen; just read. These guys want genocide. Therefore they can't have The Bomb, even though they probably wouldn't use it (at least not directly).

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With your help, I now see what's going on. Iran has been patiently biding its time for 30 years now, but will one day in the immediate future launch its dastardly plan to wipe out Israel. It will likely do so with its cutting edge air force and massive stockpile of nuclear weapons. That whole "war" that Iran had with Iraq was just to throw America-hating liberal dupes off the trail of Iran's true intentions in the Middle East.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:43 PM
Moseley Moseley is offline
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With your help, I now see what's going on. Iran has been patiently biding its time for 30 years now, but will one day in the immediate future launch its dastardly plan to wipe out Israel. It will likely do so with its cutting edge air force and massive stockpile of nuclear weapons. That whole "war" that Iran had with Iraq was just to throw America-hating liberal dupes off the trail of Iran's true intentions in the Middle East.

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The U.S.A. financed that war, selling arms to both sides at discount, in a hope they'd destroy each others economies.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:18 PM
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With your help, I now see what's going on. Iran has been patiently biding its time for 30 years now, but will one day in the immediate future launch its dastardly plan to wipe out Israel. It will likely do so with its cutting edge air force and massive stockpile of nuclear weapons. That whole "war" that Iran had with Iraq was just to throw America-hating liberal dupes off the trail of Iran's true intentions in the Middle East.

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The U.S.A. financed that war, selling arms to both sides at discount, in a hope they'd destroy each others economies.

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Really? I'd always assumed that this photo is a clever fake.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:19 PM
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what's the over/under for the US to nuclear bomb iran (I mean, that's a public plan) and

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preemptive genocide?

I personallylike "preemptive genocide", but think genocide will be replaced. maybe "preemptive iranicide"? ooh here's a good one - "preventicide".

The US says it's new doctrine of preventicide demanded that they nuclear bombed iran back into the stone age.

I like it. maybe preempticide?
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:32 PM
PLOlover PLOlover is offline
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aren't there jews in iran?
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:45 PM
Mayor M. Barry Mayor M. Barry is offline
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How is Iran any different from the U.S.? All states will inherently move towards evil because they exist solely to coerce. Why would you trust ANY state with Nukes?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:58 PM
John Kilduff John Kilduff is offline
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How is Iran any different from the U.S.? All states will inherently move towards evil because they exist solely to coerce. Why would you trust ANY state with Nukes?

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I wouldn't entirely, but I'd trust the USA, England, France, Australia a whole lot more than I'd trust Iran. How about you, would you trust all states equally with nukes?
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:11 AM
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I wouldn't entirely, but I'd trust the USA, England, France, Australia a whole lot more than I'd trust Iran. How about you, would you trust all states equally with nukes?

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well going by who has used them, its 1-0 US vs. rest of world.

and US is only country to threaten to nuke in the immediate future (US openly plans to nuke iran, according to numerous people like seymour hersh.)
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:17 AM
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I wouldn't entirely, but I'd trust the USA, England, France, Australia a whole lot more than I'd trust Iran. How about you, would you trust all states equally with nukes?

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well going by who has used them, its 1-0 US vs. rest of world.

and US is only country to threaten to nuke in the immediate future (US openly plans to nuke iran, according to numerous people like seymour hersh.)

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The nuking of Japan in WWII involved a major war already in progress and debatably it may have saved many lives (let's not debate that here in this thread; it has been debated extensively already on this forum). Conventional bombings had caused more deaths. A country using nukes is not necessarily the same as a country using nukes irresponsibly or in pure aggression or in trying to commit genocide. Hitler didn't use nukes but what he did was a lot worse, right?

So you apparently don't care about what a regime believes; that has no impact at all on whether that regime should have nukes??? Is that your viewpoint, that ideology doesn't matter?
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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So you apparently don't care about what a regime believes; that has no impact at all on whether that regime should have nukes??? Is that your viewpoint, that ideology doesn't matter?

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as far as I'm aware, the only country that has used them is US, and the only country to seriously threaten to use them is the US ("tactical" nukes vs. iran in a massive aerial assault which would cripple iranian military at the very least).

so in my opinion that's the main answer to the question of, which countries which you trust with nukes.
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