If morons didn't think online poker was rigged...

[unfrgvn]

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How many more players would be online? Seriously?

Everytime I play at a casino, or at a live card room, anytime online poker is mentioned...everyone talks about how it is not legitimate because of some 2 outer or some such non-sense. They played once, and stopped.

They are naturally all bad players, and obviously not very good at life in general.

Do you think if Party/Stars(please) came out with a campaign, showing more in detail how legitimate their shuffling/dealing was that more donkeys would play online? I'm beginning to think so.

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None. I think the vast majority of losing players who tried a few hundred at PP or PS really know the reason they lost is that they are not good players. But what is easier on the ego, telling your friends and yourself that you lost because you suck or that you lost because online poker is rigged?

[Matt24]

I was at Caesars Indiana the other night in a 5/10 NL game and the talk was about a program that could see all of the players cards. This guy said it was being sold for 25k and that he had seen it in operation.

I and a couple others told him he was full of [censored] and if someone could do that, they surely wouldn't be dumb enough to sell it for $25k. He says he has sold hundreds, I asked how in the hell are people still beating the games then.

[KingMedicine]

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How many more players would be online? Seriously?

Everytime I play at a casino, or at a live card room, anytime online poker is mentioned...everyone talks about how it is not legitimate because of some 2 outer or some such non-sense. They played once, and stopped.

They are naturally all bad players, and obviously not very good at life in general.

Do you think if Party/Stars(please) came out with a campaign, showing more in detail how legitimate their shuffling/dealing was that more donkeys would play online? I'm beginning to think so.

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this is actually a really good idea. you should PM Lee Jones and mention it. seriously.

[Predator314]

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More donkeys? Is that possible?

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Just imagine online games being as soft as B&M games. $100/hr multi-tabling 3/6 !!

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I wish.

I think rakeback and reload bonuses and things like that really kill the action at the tables too. I see a lot of people with 12% VPIPs. Can that even be profitable? I can pull up a table and take a nap and still have a higher VPIP than 12-14%.

[Matt24]

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More donkeys? Is that possible?

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Just imagine online games being as soft as B&M games. $100/hr multi-tabling 3/6 !!

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I wish.

I think rakeback and reload bonuses and things like that really kill the action at the tables too. I see a lot of people with 12% VPIPs. Can that even be profitable? I can pull up a table and take a nap and still have a higher VPIP than 12-14%.

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When I first started playing for a living back in Sep of 04, yes 13 VIP at 3/6 full was highly profitable.

[chief444]

I think a big difference between online and live for these players is that it's easier for them to convince themselves that they aren't losing live players. Online they see the account steadily decline and they know they are losing. Live they never really keep track. And there are a lot of long term losing players that fill cardrooms that believe they really win money.

[usmfan]

I had one of the dealers at the Silver Star tell me about the same program but it is only about $500. One of his buddies bought it though and it's already having success. Basically you have to train it to see the pattern in the flops at Party by playing several hundreds hands with it.

This dealer is planning on buying one for himself very soon. He bristled at the idea that 1) this was a scam or 2) this was a trojan horse designed to show the victim's hole cards, access the account, etc.

1<3 b&m players and dealers.

[OrangeKing]

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Then random checking the first two cards mean absolutly nothing. This is what they checked not the whole process.

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Wrong, but thanks for playing.

[UATrewqaz]

People are idiots and consistently prove it with their $

[Guthrie]

Keep in mind that a lot of B&M players are computer and Internet illiterate. It's easier to say online poker is rigged than to admit they can't figure out how to set up a Neteller account and handle EFTs.