WSOP ME day 1, worst turn card ever.

[luckychewy]

seems fine to me all around.

[nath]

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I think you played this just right. Of course, most of my bustout hands involve one-gapped suited cards, so I might not be the best judge of these things.

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Join the club

Anyway, I think it's totally fine, including preflop, and if you aren't tangoing in spots like this, you're missing out on money

[woodguy]

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and if you aren't tangoing in spots like this, you're missing out on money

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Nath's starting hand chart:

[bogey1]

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and if you aren't tangoing in spots like this, you're missing out on money

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Huh? Playing 85 would be marginal without a PF raise. With one it's an easy fold to me. Maybe if it were 6-7 handed, but just on the hope of 4 handed it seems, well, hopeful.

If you're playing 58s as a float in the spot, what are you actually folding?

[8Adam8]

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and if you aren't tangoing in spots like this, you're missing out on money

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Huh? Playing 85 would be marginal without a PF raise. With one it's an easy fold to me. Maybe if it were 6-7 handed, but just on the hope of 4 handed it seems, well, hopeful.

If you're playing 58s as a float in the spot, what are you actually folding?

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You're missing the point.

He's calling 85s almost 100bb deep in position against a woman who has shown the propensity to open pots preflop, and be extremely weak-tight postflop.

I disagree with anyone who thinks calling preflop here is bad.

[Rekwob]

calling preflop is only a mistake if you're going to make more mistakes because of it, calling or folding by itself cant be a mistake imo

[nath]

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and if you aren't tangoing in spots like this, you're missing out on money

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Huh? Playing 85 would be marginal without a PF raise. With one it's an easy fold to me. Maybe if it were 6-7 handed, but just on the hope of 4 handed it seems, well, hopeful.

If you're playing 58s as a float in the spot, what are you actually folding?

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Not a whole lot- I'm definitely not folding anything that can flop big. Then again, I'm better than you are at using position, reading my opponents, and getting value in thin spots.

[mastr]

we really need to stop getting in arguments with the bad players that post in this forum. it derails too many interesting threads

[Exitonly]

that's a pretty awful thing to say [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[bigbabyjesus]

Wow @ how many advocate folding this preflop. Having position this deep against these monkeys with a hand with some potential = +EV.

I think you played it perfect.