Nut Flush Draw and Overcards

[marchron]

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What does raising on the flop accomplish?

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If everyone calls, you've successfully cashed in your huge equity advantage. If you force folds, you make it easier for your A and Q outs to stand up. Either way, you win.

[CrMenace]

I should have grunched this one, because I probably wouldn't have caught all the right plays. But I'll re-iterate them here for my own learning and for anyone else who failed to grunch.

PF-- reraise as AQs fairs favorably against an MP raiser.

Raise flop -- if cold called you get additional value, if villains fold it may protect your outs and get you a free card.

On the river -- button is unlikely to call two cold without a winning hand, but he might call for one. So you have similar upside by calling but without risking a 3-bet from BB.

This is a good learning hand.

[sean c]

3 bet pre flop, bet the flop, check the turn and raise the river. Win monies.

[BigBadBabar]

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given that you didn't, raise the flop

[Harv72b]

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What does raising on the flop accomplish?

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You have two strong overcards and the nut flush draw. Raising the flop is often going to be for value (and I'd cap it as well, especially if it remains multi-way). As an added bonus it can buy you additional outs, a free card if you choose to take it, and every once in a while, the entire pot.

I don't hate the river raise, but I'd want a read on BB before I made it. The way he played his hand it really looks like he turned two pair or better, and as others said, if he didn't then you're looking at a relatively narrow range of worse hands that a decent player would call a river raise with (and play that way to the river).

[wcsherry]

3 bet PF, raise that flop, raise the turn, and I'm not raising that river.

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3 bet PF, raise that flop, raise the turn, and I'm not raising that river.

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why would you raise the turn

[MrWookie]

Harv,

You think it's most probable that BB turned two pair? He's in a perfect to c/r, and that 9 is not a scare card at all. I'd expect this to just be 8x or 9x a whole lot. The read I want on the river is not on BB. I think we beat him a whole lot. The read I want is on button. I think if button is tight, we have an easy raise. If button is loose, a call looks much better to get the likely overcall.

[wcsherry]

Raising this turn is a move that would require a bit more of a read, but is one that I do like for several reasons. It's possible you may get a weaker paired Ace or Queen (A4/A2/Q2/Q4) to fold, and we have 15 outs to a very strong hand. BB waking up could mean two pair, however, and I suppose with no read at all a call may be better.

[marchron]

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The read I want on the river is not on BB. I think we beat him a whole lot. The read I want is on button. I think if button is tight, we have an easy raise. If button is loose, a call looks much better to get the likely overcall.

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It's three-way after the other guy folds. If we call we get 1 BB max. If we raise, we're almost certainly getting 1 BB from BB, with the added potential of getting 2 more from a Button coldcall.

There's no point going for overcalls in a three-way pot.