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#11
07-24-2007, 07:47 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
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Even if Hero would call a river raise I think there is value in the bet. Calling a river raise = I can't play poker [/ QUOTE ] Fixed your post. 
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#12
07-24-2007, 07:57 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
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[ QUOTE ] Even if Hero would call a river raise I think there is value in the bet. Calling a river raise = I can't play poker [/ QUOTE ] Fixed your post. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that calling a river raise is bad and I dont want to nitpick but b/f >>>>>>> b/c >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> c/c
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#13
07-24-2007, 07:58 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
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What hands do you expect him to call with? [/ QUOTE ] What worse hands do you expect him to bet with? He is calling A high and lower pp's. Even worse hands than A high will look you up here.
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#14
07-24-2007, 08:01 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
Oink, I agree that B/F is certainly better than c/c as long as hero doesnt get in the habit of making stupid river calls using some "but i'm getting 6:1" bs argument.
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#15
07-24-2007, 08:02 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Even if Hero would call a river raise I think there is value in the bet. Calling a river raise = I can't play poker [/ QUOTE ] Fixed your post. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that calling a river raise is bad and I dont want to nitpick but b/f >>>>>>> b/c >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> c/c [/ QUOTE ] I'm guessing this is for an unknown? Against a loose passive that might call with Ax or worse then a B/F makes sense. Against a particularly aggressive opponent that will bet when you show weakness but make you pay if he has Qx or Kx, then C/C does in fact, make sense.
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#16
07-24-2007, 08:04 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Even if Hero would call a river raise I think there is value in the bet. Calling a river raise = I can't play poker [/ QUOTE ] Fixed your post. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that calling a river raise is bad and I dont want to nitpick but b/f >>>>>>> b/c >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> c/c [/ QUOTE ] I'm guessing this is for an unknown? Against a loose passive that might call with Ax or worse then a B/F makes sense. Against a particularly aggressive opponent that will bet when you show weakness but make you pay if he has Qx or Kx, then C/C does in fact, make sense. [/ QUOTE ] Not really. Kx would often put in a raise earlier, and aggressive doesn't necessarily mean they'll valuebet a low pocket pair on this board, or turn their A high into a bluff.
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#17
07-24-2007, 08:08 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Even if Hero would call a river raise I think there is value in the bet. Calling a river raise = I can't play poker [/ QUOTE ] Fixed your post. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that calling a river raise is bad and I dont want to nitpick but b/f >>>>>>> b/c >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> c/c [/ QUOTE ] I'm guessing this is for an unknown? Against a loose passive that might call with Ax or worse then a B/F makes sense. Against a particularly aggressive opponent that will bet when you show weakness but make you pay if he has Qx or Kx, then C/C does in fact, make sense. [/ QUOTE ] Feel free to enlighten me with the worse hands in villains range that will bet if checked to and not call a bet. Ok, just reread the hand. So there is busted spade draws. So maybe 65ss, 98ss, T9ss and JTss will bet if checked to. But that is only 4 combos so I still think c/c is retarded (sorry!) against any villain.
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#19
07-24-2007, 08:12 AM
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Well the point is that it is opponent dependent and that saying such and such move is bad poker is too generalized. [/ QUOTE ] General statements are most often useless but sometimes a play is bad against any kind of villain. Seriously! You should never c/c this river.
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#20
07-24-2007, 08:21 AM
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Re: Pocket TT Against Overcards
You think Ax and 99-22 is common enough for a bet? That really isn't that many hands. If he's the kind of person that has a betting range on the river wider than that, it makes sense to C/C. If you think it's going to be smaller than that then B/F makes sense. Unless he's horrible, he won't be calling down with much else that beats us.
Although him being horrible isn't out of the question.
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