($225) a very annoying common spot ITM.

[Pudge714]

This is really read dependent/game flow dependent

[RexWoo]

In your situation I'm still in push/fold . Can anyone care to explain briefly why possibly raise > push here ?

Thanks a lot.

[eMbAh]

i would say because if you get reraised then you know you are beaten and you still have enough chips to get away from a raise, so your cards could might aswell be blank imo

[Little John]

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #11012803282: Tournament #55838465, $525+$30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/07/18 - 22:57:02 (ET)
Table '55838465 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: SQUi5HiiFiSH (3822 in chips)
Seat 4: Guldgraveren (3320 in chips)
Seat 5: brsavage (6358 in chips)
SQUi5HiiFiSH: posts the ante 25
Guldgraveren: posts the ante 25
brsavage: posts the ante 25
SQUi5HiiFiSH: posts small blind 200
Guldgraveren: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SQUi5HiiFiSH [3s As]
brsavage: folds
SQUi5HiiFiSH: raises 600 to 1000
Guldgraveren: raises 2295 to 3295 and is all-in
SQUi5HiiFiSH: folds
Guldgraveren collected 2075 from pot
Guldgraveren: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2075 | Rake 0
Seat 1: SQUi5HiiFiSH (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Guldgraveren (big blind) collected (2075)
Seat 5: brsavage (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[/ QUOTE ]

I hate to question a guy playing a lot higher than me, but this looks TERRIBLE. Pushing is unexploitable. At a minimum a push is worth +$60 (haha, my level). It is very hard for me to believe that the rasie/fold is more profitable. Sure, sometimes he will have a hand that dominates you but a lot of stuff like QJs and KQo is in his range making this really bad. If he has a read that you can raise/fold here he can push really wide.

Sorry to hijack.

[Little John]

withoug running anything my default is to fold A2 in the original hand.

[darinvg]

RGH hand: I guess folding seems the best.

The other hand is way different since hero is in the SB and looks pretty bad.

[geo8o2]

hero in the original hand has just too many chips to push. and is folding an Ace 3 handed really the best choice? maybe. it's just not something i would do. in the 2600-3000ish range it's an autopush i suppose.

hijacked hand, again just a little too deep to push. but the fold was read dependent, i'd been making a living taking his blinds. this is the 1st time he came over the top.

[kyro]

[ QUOTE ]
hero in the original hand has just too many chips to push. and is folding an Ace 3 handed really the best choice? maybe. it's just not something i would do. in the 2600-3000ish range it's an autopush i suppose.

hijacked hand, again just a little too deep to push. but the fold was read dependent, i'd been making a living taking his blinds. this is the 1st time he came over the top.

[/ QUOTE ]

Eff. stacks are 8BB. With antes, pushing is much better than raise/folding.

[Chipchucker5]

In Ryan's hand, I probably push pf. It seems like min raising or limping is way more exploitable than just open shoving.

In the hand John posted, shoving is far and away the best play, and the way hero played it is beyond bad.

[Ditch Digger]

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #11012803282: Tournament #55838465, $525+$30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/07/18 - 22:57:02 (ET)
Table '55838465 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: SQUi5HiiFiSH (3822 in chips)
Seat 4: Guldgraveren (3320 in chips)
Seat 5: brsavage (6358 in chips)
SQUi5HiiFiSH: posts the ante 25
Guldgraveren: posts the ante 25
brsavage: posts the ante 25
SQUi5HiiFiSH: posts small blind 200
Guldgraveren: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SQUi5HiiFiSH [3s As]
brsavage: folds
SQUi5HiiFiSH: raises 600 to 1000
Guldgraveren: raises 2295 to 3295 and is all-in
SQUi5HiiFiSH: folds
Guldgraveren collected 2075 from pot
Guldgraveren: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2075 | Rake 0
Seat 1: SQUi5HiiFiSH (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Guldgraveren (big blind) collected (2075)
Seat 5: brsavage (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[/ QUOTE ]

Prepare for variance. You will get crushed at the higher buyins.