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Old 07-16-2007, 06:07 PM
Big Poppa Smurf Big Poppa Smurf is offline
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Default Re: 50NL AA on a coordinated board

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The board is just too wet to cbet here and cbetting on board like this imo is a big mistake. getting c/r would really suck here. and if hero had bet the flop and got raised every1 here would have said how can you cbet here?!


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this doesn't make any sense, especially the bolded part
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Old 07-16-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: 50NL AA on a coordinated board

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i donīt have a problem with your flop play. The board is just too wet to cbet here and cbetting on board like this imo is a big mistake. getting c/r would really suck here. and if hero had bet the flop and got raised every1 here would have said how can you cbet here?!
Betting the turn is right for value b/c your hand in underreped.
you missed some value by batting the river though

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Monk, I don't usually disagree with your posts, but I think this is wrong.

I bet the flop primarily for value...and I suppose we also get protection/charge draws.

If we held AJdd or 33 or 56s I'd agree that cbetting in a standard way (i.e. in the hope of getting a fold) would not be the best idea. But with this monster and the enormous number of worse hands that will pay us, we must bet.

And if villain c/r us, well, we need to decide how much of his range is a set or draw or whatever. From what I remember of various Stove results in this spot against average players, the equity of an overpair/premuim hand is very good if we have cbet and there's dead money in there.

BTW, preflop I 3b to $6 here in position.
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:34 PM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Re: 50NL AA on a coordinated board

When I first saw this I misread the action (anyone else?). SB cold calls a 3bet! This is TT-QQ, AK almost always. VB all the way. If he called 7 pf straight oop with anything that beats your hand after the flop take a note and follow the clown around.

I don't think it is a small pair often enough to put any weight on 'em. Not without some read or note on villain.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:59 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL AA on a coordinated board

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i donīt have a problem with your flop play. The board is just too wet to cbet here and cbetting on board like this imo is a big mistake. getting c/r would really suck here. and if hero had bet the flop and got raised every1 here would have said how can you cbet here?!
Betting the turn is right for value b/c your hand in underreped.
you missed some value by batting the river though

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wtf....bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river.....ask the dealer to deal a 6th card, take out your wallet and bet it.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: 50NL AA on a coordinated board

bet the flop for value. after ive cbet here im praying for a c/r ai which i can snap call and take his stack. if he flat calls your cbet then shove turn. as played shove river! just get it in somehow
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