Tells

[quarkncover]

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Hi Quarkncover,

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Seriously, I've found creating a friendly atmosphere at the table makes things much more profitable. I've found players having a good time are very easy to read.

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This is very true. When I sit down at a table in Vegas I start gabbing it up in quite a friendly way. I'll get a quiet table laughing and having a good time in no time. It's only when I am in a hand (and I play fairly tight so I'm not in too many) do I sit there as I described.

Garon

P.S. - Anyone ever put on "acts" at the table?

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Do you have a beard or do you wear a fake beard?

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[SideCash]

i always wear fake beard

[BalugaWhale]

this is good stuff! Keep it coming.

"I mask my tells by harnessing all of my emotions when I play."


Easier said than done. It is very difficult to act identical when you're putting it all in with the nuts as when you're putting it all in on a SCB.

Any tricks you guys use?

[Garon]

Real beard, full, thick, and fast growing. When I used to work a real job I had to bring a razor and shave during lunch. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Garon

[orange]

Advice is great so far. Keep them coming...

In my homegame experience, I've found chatty opponents during a hand= they have a hand. If you've ever pulled a big bluff, you'll (sometimes) find it hard to speak at times, and you are sometimes akward, stammering. If your opponents can speak clearly w/ no emotion, I've found they usually have a hand.

Mike Caro's book is excellent, (Caro's book of tells, recommended), and most of the advice is based on strong=weak and vice versa. I agree with most of the advice given, but it really depends on the level of your competition. If they are smart enough to fake tells (I've done it in the past to one of my friends who thought he was a super reader), then be cautious.

I've found hand reading to be much more valuable in live poker (and online I guess) than tells.

[Garon]

Other tells I've seen in Vegas ...

One guy who was on the draw would always mumble "shoot" (except it wasn't shoot, replace the oo with i) each street when he didn't hit it.

Another guy on a missed draw with a 3 flush on board with him holding the Ace drawing to the nut flush at the end would say ... Do you know where the Ace is? (I've seen this twice online too). This was always with two on the flop and the turn making the 3rd flush card on the board. Oh, all 3 of them (live guy and the two online) bluffed the flush when checked to on the river.

One guy in a home game would always grab his money jar and shake it while staring at you saying something like let's go, or want to raise me, etc. in an animated way. Always meant he was bluffing. (this was a very low stakes 25 cent limit stud game).

An "act" I've used in Vegas - The stumbling drunk. Order a beer and a whiskey every time the waitress comes around. Pretend to drink the beer but don't. Go to the bathroom a lot (you've been drinking afterall) and pour out the beer into the toilet, use the whiskey as cologne for that drunken alcoholic smell. Slur speech. Talk a lot. Now they won't notice you hardly play a hand as you're talking a lot. And your monsters will get called down by people with Ace high! [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Garon

[quarkncover]

The way amateur's handle their cards tend to be a very reliable tell. For example, the "holding cards up while shuffling them back and forth" is an opponent cursing the gods trying to make his cards change into something better. Keep your eye open for opponents ready to fold out of turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] or opponents hungrily eyeing their chips.

[yabastid]

I've noticed in a live game I sometimes play in, newbies who have A's look at their hand once and then never again and then they stare anxiously at board and can't wait to bet.

Online, I've found the turbo check when the flush card hits on turn or river, usually means he hit it and really wants that C/R.

[BalugaWhale]

I am loving this thread.

[hoyasnaxa]

One tell that I see a surprising amount with amateur players is when on a draw, you can literally see them nod their eyes or head in a counting manner, counting whether they have a straight. It happens enough to make it important to notice. Even just longer looks at draw heavy boards are tells.