NL 50 QQ set value??

[relativity_x]

odds of making a set:

1-[(47/49)*(46/48*(45/47)]=0.1199

so you need 1/.1199=8.3:1 to make it even money.

[Peter Harris]

people who are 55/5 frequently DON'T raise or reraise AA but prefer to "trap" with it, so I am, of course, sceptical that you can ever be 100% certain of anything at the poker table.

[SirFelixCat]

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odds of making a set:

1-[(47/49)*(46/48*(45/47)]=0.1199

so you need 1/.1199=8.3:1 to make it even money.

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But that does not figure in the times in which you'll hit a set and lose as well as the times that the board will come QQJ and you won't get paid off with villain's stack.

Therefore, it's been shown that the "correct" odds for it to be EV neutral is 11.7:1 to set farm. HTH's!

[relativity_x]

whoopsy.

but when the board comes qqj, the villain almost always has JJ in that spot. ldo....stack-a-donk, no?

[+EV]

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looks close to me, $9 to win ~$70? about 7:1, i think call is ok,

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Doesnt it need to be like 11x not 8x to play for set value?

+EV

[DarthHate]

villian can 3bet w/AK here as well. so can't put him on just AA unless you KNOW he doesn't 3bet AK ever. which is hard

[iwa]

How do you distinguish KK from AA in a situation like this? As Nick C said, do you auto fold then any flop where you hit set and an ace or king flops?

[tarheeljks]

what?

[paulnic]

i dont think anyone can ever be that sure...

[sluggger5x]

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How do you distinguish KK from AA in a situation like this? As Nick C said, do you auto fold then any flop where you hit set and an ace or king flops?

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Ideally yes. But easier said than done. Villian is so passive that he wouldnt even 4bet KK pf.