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#11
06-29-2007, 09:05 AM
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Re: A7s, too early to play? Or played wrong?
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Villain has been tight and tough post flop. [/ QUOTE ] I don't see much worse hands calling you when you bet that turn, why not check behind and call river? It's not like there's any serious draw out there. 
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#12
06-29-2007, 09:11 AM
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Re: A7s, too early to play? Or played wrong?
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Terrible hand. [/ QUOTE ] Raising the flop is pointless. There are no draws Hero needs to protect his hand against and there is no value in the raise. For the love of God. Stop raising marginal hands in smallish pots where no villain can possibly have a draw they can profitably peel with
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#13
06-29-2007, 09:16 AM
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Re: A7s, too early to play? Or played wrong?
I think the turn bet was a must, cbet for value because villain only called my flop raise. Villains turn raise was a huge red flag though, at least to me.
You are probably right, I would expect to take this down pretty often on the turn bet if villain wasn't holding a hand. But even if I am ahead and villains draws are slim, he must pay something to draw behind.
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#14
06-29-2007, 09:19 AM
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Re: A7s, too early to play? Or played wrong?
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I think the turn bet was a must, cbet for value because villain only called my flop raise. Villains turn raise was a huge red flag though, at least to me. You are probably right, I would expect to take this down pretty often on the turn bet if villain wasn't holding a hand. But even if I am ahead and villains draws are slim, he must pay something to draw behind. [/ QUOTE ] what is his draw, exactly, on the flop? runner runner flush?
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#15
06-29-2007, 09:27 AM
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Re: A7s, too early to play? Or played wrong?
So you would have me a) fold top pair to the flop bet? b) call down behind from the flop with 2-4 outs? c) some other line I haven't considered?
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#17
06-29-2007, 09:37 AM
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Re: A7s, too early to play? Or played wrong?
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So you would have me a) fold top pair to the flop bet? b) call down behind from the flop with 2-4 outs? c) some other line I haven't considered? [/ QUOTE ] I would call down unless someone starts raising behind me in which case I would reevaluate. Where do you get the 2-4 outs from? If villain has a worse kicker he has to hit runner runner kicker to win outright and if villain has a better kicker Hero has a lot of outs to a chop. Against A9 any T, J, Q and K will give Hero a chop.
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#19
06-29-2007, 10:08 AM
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Re: A7s, too early to play? Or played wrong?
*grunch*
I don't like preflop but that's whatever...its certainly too weak to raise from that spot as it is easily dominated by the CCers behind u. BB on the flop can have a myriad of hands, many of which are either a bigger A or a 6x. Flop raise is standard in this case with the hopes he will fold right away. Once he calls here, I feel that a bet for value is hard to justify here, id rather check behind and probably call the eventual river bet. Kicker problems are huge issues playing these types of hands up front.
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