Free money from BODOG - Page 2

SonnyJay · #1 06-18-2007, 10:33 PM

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I e-mailed Bodog support, and they ensured that the buyer doesn't need to be an existing "Automaker." Thus, the winning country can also include where the investment vehicle is based.

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save that e-mail please

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Oh yeah, way ahead of you.

Skipbidder · #2 09-26-2007, 06:12 PM

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I e-mailed Bodog support, and they ensured that the buyer doesn't need to be an existing "Automaker." Thus, the winning country can also include where the investment vehicle is based.

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save that e-mail please

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Oh yeah, way ahead of you.

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Doesn't matter. Bodog will keep your money if they feel like it. They might not even bother to tell you why. If they are feeling generous, they might tell you that it was an "obviously wrong" line and refund your money. They are the sleaziest book among those still considered by many to be legit.

NajdorfDefense · #3 06-18-2007, 11:57 PM

Given the huge level of PE activity in the US recently, and the monster sized funds raised by Cerberus, GS, KKR, TPG, Carlyle, et al, I don't like getting only 13-2 here unless there's a LOT of scuttlebutt in the UK that Magma/Leach or the other guys are seriously going to bid.

I'd want like 9-1 I'd say.

SonnyJay · #4 06-24-2007, 02:19 PM

Naj (or anyone else that follows these things), would you take the US at +350?

I just don't think it'll attract as many of the huge US firms since it's going to be a major pain to deal with the labor organizations and it'll require considerable concessions. This probably isn't going to be a 1 or 2 year slash-and-dump. It'll definitely get some interest, but it seems like it's a much more attractive proposition for a firm with designs on being in the auto business. Cerberus is definitely an option, but firms like Alchemy and Magma have tried in the past to acquire auto firms. Granted, MG Rover and Jaguar are very different, but both funds have stated fairly recently that they are looking for auto opportunities. The rumor is that Alchemy is already putting together a bid.

Obviously the US funds have much more capital, but it simply doesn't seem like the type of play that would be appealing to a lot of funds. On the other hand, these funds are just flooded with money right now, and this is a place to put it. It'll be interesting to see.

By the way, Ford hired KPMG to examine the Jag and LR books in preparation for a sale. Just another sign that Ford is serious about moving them.

NajdorfDefense · #5 06-24-2007, 03:28 PM

It is getting increasingly likely, imho, that Wilbur Ross or one of the the PE firms will buy a large division of Ford soon.

bot1478 · #6 06-25-2007, 09:53 AM

we can analyse and handicap, which one first, to what country, together or separate. But JLR will be sold. Soon. Free Money

Skipbidder · #7 11-22-2007, 03:00 PM

No such thing as free money from Bodog.
On a whim, they will just take your money away from you.
Claim that it was an obviously bad line.

brendanb438 · #8 11-22-2007, 05:12 PM

skip you are crazy. Bodog grades these bets correctly and pays out on them 99% of the time.

What is your beef with Bodog anyway? The only thing I see you posted in SB forum is knocking them multiple times but no reason why. I have taken $10k + off them the last 2 years on silly bets alone. Paying every single time.

Skipbidder · #9 11-22-2007, 06:14 PM

I suppose that it is possibe that Bodog has changed. I haven't dealt with them since they no-actioned a boxing bet (Klitschko-Brock) shortly before the start of the event. They no actioned me (late) two other times to leave me with naked arbs. Perhaps if I had won the other sides instead of going 0-fer, I wouldn't be so upset. They used to deal dual lines (while vehemently denying it). Perhaps they don't do this anymore. The vig was quite stiff on the events that I wanted to play (I didn't bet baseball, apparently they were okay there.) I haven't done any sportsbetting since the neteller fiasco. Maybe the landscape has changed. It is entirely possible that I was just unlucky with them. I was never no-actioned at any other site (played mostly Pinny and The Greek, but some at Bet Jamaica, WSEX and Skybook).

On the poker front, they didn't seem to care about what seemed like very obvious collusion that I encountered there.