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Old 02-22-2006, 01:59 PM
seke2 seke2 is offline
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Default Re: Stars 20/180 Tournament Report: My First Win

Really? You reraise tens behind a 4xBB raise and a call of that raise? Any reraise is basically going to pot commit me, since I'd want to repop it a bit extra with the raise and cold-call, and I didn't think I'd have much FE if I pushed.

I almost folded, but I figured it was at least worth a call for set/all undercard flop value. Reraising never even crossed my mind. This was completely a gap concept hand to me.
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Old 02-22-2006, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: Stars 20/180 Tournament Report: My First Win

Hand 54 was a tough one, and before I read the entire description, I noticed it would be a good one for some discussion.

I think you need to lay this one down. You don’t need to try to get your money in after the flop hoping for an ace or a queen when you see mid pair show up. Given the read, it is very likely he could be making this move with a weak pair.

I also thought about pushing preflop, but I hate AQ.
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Old 02-22-2006, 02:25 PM
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Hand 51: Luckbox repaired
Any better line here to extract more? I thought I played it right. As people say, it's hard to misplay quads. Anyway, this makes me the CL by a slight margin.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t49008)
UTG (t67635)
MP (t60401)
Button (t47183)
Hero (t45773)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t2000, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t5400) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t4000</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t4000.

Turn: (t13400) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t6000</font>, Hero calls t6000.

River: (t25400) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t10000</font>, BB calls t10000.

Final Pot: t45400

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 9s Ah (full house, kings full of nines).
Hero has Ts Kh (four of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins t45400. </font>

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I would checkraise the turn allin, his line screams 9 and he probably can't fold because checkraising allin when you spike quads isn't the line most people take, you don't want an overcard to come and kill your action.
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Old 02-22-2006, 02:34 PM
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Well hand 54, at least last decision looks [censored] up. Against this wierd kind of guy who can pull unpredictable move you've got to call.
Against a standard vilain, i think you STILL have got to call but that's closer.

You're getting 5:1 odds, you can lose and have 30k left (which is way enough to come back).
You're 3:1 against pp&lt;Q
You crush some of his dumb Ax (i definately think you can be ahead sometime against this guy)
You're crushed only against AA KK QQ AK a set, doesn't seem to me you can really give credit to vilain for this kind of hands often enough.

I go by the road "i don't let my chips out there without protection". Let's gamble. His range is probably a 2:1 or 3:1 fav over you at most.

Does the payout structure modify things enough to make this simple reasoning wrong?

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No, the payout structure is fairly standard for a MTT.

My real problem was that I could see the Villain doing this with a lot of hands. A5, AJ, any 2 spades, etc. I thought his most likely holding was a pair of some sort, possibly 55 or 88-TT. I also thought AK was possible. I felt that I probably had the odds against his range, but at the same time, losing 25k more on that hand would have hurt my stack significantly when I felt that I was definitely the best of the players, and way better than that guy.

I felt that I might have taken a slightly -EV line in folding even with good odds to call in order to preserve my stack to take advantage of more clearly +EV opportunities later.
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Old 02-22-2006, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Stars 20/180 Tournament Report: My First Win

missed the SB was calling this sorry. U played it right.
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Stars 20/180 Tournament Report: My First Win

Easy to win when you get AA/KK/QQ 300 times during the course of the tourney!

Sorry for bump but it had to be said!
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Stars 20/180 Tournament Report: My First Win

hand 7 was played pretty bad, but nice cash
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:24 PM
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hand 7 was played pretty bad, but nice cash

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Thanks. I fully agree. But at least I didn't get overly dumb and lose a big pot!
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:26 PM
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Easy to win when you get AA/KK/QQ 300 times during the course of the tourney!

Sorry for bump but it had to be said!

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It certainly helps.

Check out my recent win for one where I didn't actually get hit in the face by the deck until we got ITM, and even then it was winning flips, not catching cards.
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Stars 20/180 Tournament Report: My First Win

The irony of this post getting bumped today is absurd.

Seke just won his 2nd one of these yesterday.

Brad
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