LC: Cure for bubbling

[TwistedEcho]

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sound advice allabouttheu, thanks


so its a bad idea to big stack bully if you're the only one that knows what big stack bullying is? makes since.

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I have tried to do this SO much, but randoms just don't fold when you push every hand, unless there is a really smallstack around - and even then they can't fold AQ/AJ.

I basically have cut down a ton on my bubble pwning vs randoms unless its a really obvious spot for them to fold, like a really shortstack, or i have a good image.

[allaboutheu]

Exactly. Bigstack bullying is great, the only problem is that a lot of players are to dumb to realize they should fold, but this is a good thing. I've played a decent amount w/ you and know you play a lot of tables at once. Try to figure out who is just trying to get itm, and who is trying to win.

Those that just want to get itm are the guys you want to bully, while the people playing for 1st may call your shove w/ a marginal hand but are still way ahead of you because they are willing to bubble to double up.

goodluck.

[Guthrie]

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just concentrate on ICM stuff...use a bubble trainer like the one on prego poker

also, what kind of stack are you usually entering the bubble with

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Right. BT is essential.

Usually getting down to 4 with 2500-3500 chips.

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Having 2500 chips when it's down to 4 would be a luxury to me.

[BHokie1]

Not having good reads for calling/pushing ranges on the bubble, if you misread on the bubble the EV can drastically change.

[loxxii]

Would we go so far as to not make ATC SB pushes with 10bb and less if we know the BB is one of the "double or bubble" cats?

[blackize]

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Would we go so far as to not make ATC SB pushes with 10bb and less if we know the BB is one of the "double or bubble" cats?

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It isn't ATC if he's calling stupid wide. Figure out the ranges that those goons call with and push appropriately.

[PattdownManiac]

TwistedEcho have you cut down your big stack bubble bullying even in the 60's?

[TwistedEcho]

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TwistedEcho have you cut down your big stack bubble bullying even in the 60's?

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against some lineups, yes

[Kevin8423]

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sound advice allabouttheu, thanks


so its a bad idea to big stack bully if you're the only one that knows what big stack bullying is? makes since.

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I have tried to do this SO much, but randoms just don't fold when you push every hand, unless there is a really smallstack around - and even then they can't fold AQ/AJ.

I basically have cut down a ton on my bubble pwning vs randoms unless its a really obvious spot for them to fold, like a really shortstack, or i have a good image.

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Bullying works fine in the 16s against like everyone, unless I'm just getting great games over a huge sample [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[TwistedEcho]

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sound advice allabouttheu, thanks


so its a bad idea to big stack bully if you're the only one that knows what big stack bullying is? makes since.

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I have tried to do this SO much, but randoms just don't fold when you push every hand, unless there is a really smallstack around - and even then they can't fold AQ/AJ.

I basically have cut down a ton on my bubble pwning vs randoms unless its a really obvious spot for them to fold, like a really shortstack, or i have a good image.

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Bullying works fine in the 16s against like everyone, unless I'm just getting great games over a huge sample [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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i mean like shoving every hand for the enitre bubble etc, people always end up calling me with KT or A2 or even like J8 because im pushing every hand. I just cut down on pushing the really marginal spots, or the total trash hands from CO 4 handed at 200/400 when they all have 2500 and i have the lead and a bad image.