Tilter's Annonymous. All tilters welcome.

[bravos1]

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NPA - noted poker authority?

TA -??

And how did these sources help you tilt less inferno?

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NPA - Noted Poker Authority = Ed Miller
TA = Tommy Angelo

[karlwig]

Sign me in.

[bbbushu]

DEMOLITION TILTAR

[that_guy_33]

I would just suggest you play at a level where if you go on a downswing, you don't feel like killing yourself. If the ammount of money involved is affecting you emotionally, I would suggest deopping down a level. Yeah this might require you to check your ego at the door, but its a good way to build a bankroll to the point where the next level is more comfortable.

When I first started playing poker a few years ago, I was a tilter for sure. This was because I played at stakes above my bankroll, and basically 'had to win' to keep my bankroll intact and to keep my sanity. This obviously was a bad idea. I also was a [censored] poker player when I started and any 'profit' I made could not compare to the swings I was playing with.

Everyone has their own 'zone' that they get into playing poker. I guess I am a bit weird in this way in that I am usually not completely focussed on the game. The tv is often on, or maybe some music, or talking to a friend. I guess I am most relaxed if my mind is somewhere away from what my bankroll is. Of course the 1/2 games I play are not very difficult so alot of attention is not required to make a profit. I am sure alot of people who posted in this thread are playing much tougher games.

Anyway, good luck, we have all been there.

[nomadtla]

Great post Guru. I think my worst is lazyness tilt. I could be so much better if I put the time I intended to, into my game, and put in the effort at the tables with reads, notes, etc....

[DavidC]

We play in games with a pretty high rake, and thus, reciproci... whatever that tommy term is... we need to have more of it (or less, depending on whether more is better or worse... I'm guessing less.)

[DavidC]

Something that confuses me about reciprocity.

When you bust AA vs KK for an extra like 1SB than the other guy would have busted you for, since his AA = 6 hands and your KK = 3 hands (set on flop say), how much do you earn over time?

Anyways, it comes back to miller's point about someone folding royal flushes but still being a winning player... I don't quite know the math of it, though, so explanations are appreciated.

[DavidC]

this is a pretty awesome link though, I haven't seen tommy's stuff from 2006 I think.

[DavidC]

lol I think I'm losing the war on study reciprocity. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Guruman]

Dave, I think the post hand reciprocality analysis shouldn't take hand frequencies into account because you're not analyzing your opponent's range, you're looking at how he played his specific hand.

Tommy's stuff is great and I'm super excited that he's in the process of writing a book. I feel like I should have a plaque made that says Before anything flows, there must be a difference. Between different elevations, water flows. Between different pressures, air flows. Between different poker players, money flows. and just post it above my poker playing monitor.

I've also got some ideas on how to specifically deal with the multitudes of issues I have with my game. The technical stuff I can work out, it's the relentless, insidious, hidden, persistent, tilting that I have to get a grip on.

I think the analogy probably fits more to a bulemic than to an alcoholic in that people with body dysmorphic disorders tend to injure and disfigure themselves during the courses of their normal routines and it doesn't register as a bad thing during the action. That's how I see my tilt.

Also to the forum, please don't misunderstand this as a slight against people that are truly suffering from a crippling disease. I'm not trying to make the comparison, but I am going to try to seek resolution from tilt through the methodologies that these people would use to correct their own self-inflicted wounds.