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Old 05-05-2007, 05:13 PM
SharkSandwich SharkSandwich is offline
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

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I would have bet the turn pretty strong, if I get a call then I play the river cautiously. You could have possibly avoided this decision altogether

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I think this is pretty horrible advice. Mostly for the reasons stated. And I hear that too much here - "you could have avoided having to make a decision"

You don't make a play just to avoid having to make a decision. Sometimes it's more profitable to make a play that leaves us with a decision later. And this is an example of one of those cases.

If we bet the Turn we're folding out worse hands, and putting in too much money for the hands that beat us most likely. Checking the Turn here gives our opponent a decision. Does he bet the River without a hand? If we bet the Turn he has no decision and we've made life easy for him.

Doing it to avoid a decision is just not good enough. Especially when the river decision isn't even super hard.
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

You misinterpreted what I wrote. I didn't mean that I would make that play in order to avoid a decision, its just that had you bet the turn, given what had occured in the hand thus far, villian may have folded and as a byproduct the river decision is avoided. But the turn bet was not in itself purely a way of avoiding a confrontation later. You check. then call the flop. A king comes which is possibly quite the scare card to villian if he has a hand like 10's or QQ's or what not.. and now he has the decision to make. If he has AJ he might be turned off by a formidable turn bet here. Just my thoughts anyways. . .
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

how can u possibly fold here?
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

What does villain have that we beat? That's what I'm trying to decipher.
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

lol fold plz. u guys calling burn money good.
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

that would be one sick value bet w/ TT
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

All I want to say is:

QJ/AT? U serious? Come now...

wdead, i like most of your posts, but the only reason we would call here is for strictly TOP reasons, and we dont need to even get into that here.

this is a clear fold.
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

I think a fold is good here. If villain was an aggro donk I'd probably call as some idiot could have 88 here and turn their hand into a bluff on the river.
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

fold. I bet you will see a set here a bunch.
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AK 3b pot oop, river decision?

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I think a fold is good here. If villain was an aggro donk I'd probably call as some idiot could have 88 here and turn their hand into a bluff on the river.

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fwiw turning 88 into a bluff here one river isnt bad.
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