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Old 04-12-2007, 12:01 AM
MyTurn2Raise MyTurn2Raise is offline
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

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why is after 20k hands at 10NL, my KK win rate is -1.02 BB/Hand?!?!?

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variance


I'm down with AKs, but up pretty good with AKo over the last 100k hands. It's very rare that the two hands are played much different.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

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why is after 20k hands at 10NL, my KK win rate is -1.02 BB/Hand?!?!?

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variance

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that is what it is... I have, over 20k hands all my AT+ hands are possitive except the AKs, AJs, and ATs go figure.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

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why is after 20k hands at 10NL, my KK win rate is -1.02 BB/Hand?!?!?

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variance

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I am quite new to the game. But the more I play, the more I realize how scary the variance is. I just played 30min and was immediately down 3BI. It's prob nothing for you guys, but enough for me to smash my mouse on the table.

This game is sick!
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:51 AM
Theo_Brixton Theo_Brixton is offline
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

Here are my pairs over 115k hands of full ring, I'm up $8,800 total so as you can see your friend is correct.





Here are my hands that lose greatest $/hand (when not in a blind)


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Old 04-12-2007, 01:08 AM
Theo_Brixton Theo_Brixton is offline
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

my set mining skillz must be terrible, I'm actually pretty concerned about my small-mid pair performance, suited connectors seem to break even at best also.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

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my set mining skillz must be terrible, I'm actually pretty concerned about my small-mid pair performance, suited connectors seem to break even at best also.

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You should definitely be turning a profit with pairs, but your sample size is too low. I think SC's are inherently -EV though.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

Isn't it ok to break even on small pairs/sc's because they make you tougher to read, and give you more value on your big pairs?
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

For example raising small pairs in EP is possibly -EV, but it makes you more money when you raise EP with big hands, so thus its +EV even tho you may be break even or losing on it.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

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Isn't it ok to break even on small pairs/sc's because they make you tougher to read, and give you more value on your big pairs?

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SCs yes, PPs not so much
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: \"Most of your profit will come from AA & KK\"

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Isn't it ok to break even on small pairs/sc's because they make you tougher to read, and give you more value on your big pairs?

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I would have to say that would pre-suppose thinking, aware opponents.

Under 100NL, those are actually fairly rare (Thank you, Water Walking Jesus!).

Also, whenever I do find a player like that at one of my tables, I move. Frankly, I don't want to play against people who are even just as good as I am. And screw playing opponents who are better. That's for tournament players, not me.
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