king w/o crown

BobboFitos · #1 04-03-2007, 05:57 AM

a few preflop questions. since ppl 3bet alot. here they are: (From today)

This villain is a tag, but he opens looser from co and btn, obviously. We have some history but nothing extensive. He's a slight winner. I feel like I could call push or fold. What would you do? In my experience oftentimes these type of small 4bets are nuts or air, bc anything larger is so committal and presents a push fold. here this is close to push fold but call is somewhat of an alluring option too.

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saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($394)
SB ($682.60)
Hero ($478.65)
UTG ($248)
MP ($241.80)
CO ($405)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $64, CO raises to $135, Hero ? (71 to call)

This villain is a big fish. However, his minraise was instant. I dont always notice them, but when I do, I 4bet. Normally I'd call the min 3bet, esp vs someone as bad as him, but now when he minreraises me again, clearly he has a big hand, and pushing is super silly. so now its call or fold. What should I do?

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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($624.35)
MP ($844.60)
Hero ($529.20)
Button ($50)
SB ($619.25)
BB ($429)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, SB raises to $28, 1 fold, Hero raises to $80, SB raises to $132 Hero ? (52 to call)

Big_Jim · #2 04-03-2007, 06:06 AM

Hand 1: All options are fairly viable here.
Fold is default, of course.

If you think it's nuts or air, push>call, so he doesn't have a chance to outflop you with air. If you think hands like AK/AQ are semi-likely, and might call a push, then a stop and go is pretty sexy.

Hand 2: Clear fold. You just don't have odds to catch up.

FionnMac · #3 04-03-2007, 06:18 AM

Why raise so much pre in hand 1? $52 or $56 are my default here, $64 seems a little ott. Sorry to be picky, heh.

Big_Jim · #4 04-03-2007, 06:30 AM

Also, the thread title is lost on me, here.

fslexcduck · #5 04-03-2007, 06:32 AM

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Also, the thread title is lost on me, here.

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Clayton · #6 04-03-2007, 06:52 AM

matisyahu doesnt believe in jesus, therefore you are BLASPHEMUS

Big_Jim · #7 04-04-2007, 04:57 PM

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Also, the thread title is lost on me, here.

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I still have no idea what this has to do with the OP.

BobboFitos · #8 04-04-2007, 07:16 PM

i called both.

flop was like 2 3 7r on hand 1, i checked he bet 87. either real cheap cbet bluff or a hand which i had like tops 10% equity against. i folded but considered c/r bluff. but any overpair which puts in that bet pf calls so it would've been stupid. afterward and why i posted it i considered other options preflop maybe.

hand 2 flop came T x x, he open shoved for x2pot and i folded. he showed AKo. better question is if i flop a pair do i call the all in? i probably wouldve, but felt dirty about it.