KQ Valuetown?

[UMTerp]

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is calling down with the nut nonpair hand here with KQ that much different than calling down on another board with AK?

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Of course it is. He 3-bet you preflop, and an ace is on the board.

[bboy_]

people as of late i have found are starting to reraise lighter than normal, especially if i've been raising liberally. i'm seeing the 3bet pot as more of a reason to call down (big pot) than the ace being on board.

imo he can easily have QJs or JTs here as well.

[UMTerp]

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people as of late i have found are starting to reraise lighter than normal, especially if i've been raising liberally. i'm seeing the 3bet pot as more of a reason to call down (big pot) than the ace being on board.

imo he can easily have QJs or JTs here as well.

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Sure, but aces are in his 3-bet range as well. Certainly you can see the difference between calling this down and calling down AK on a 952 board.

[bboy_]

i guess i might just be results oriented with thinking i play good, as villain had KhTh here and MHWG.

[justin]

I didnt realize this thread was about your whole play being standard thought it was about the river bet. I will very occasionally make a move like this hooping for some fold equity and mostly metagame principle but calling down/raising turn should not be your standard play on A high flop here.

[Tbulge]

I think the turn is a fold, but if raised i would bet the river

[DrewOnTilt]

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i guess i might just be results oriented with thinking i play good, as villain had KhTh here and MHWG.

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LOL do you really want to be results oriented here? In other words, he made both a good lead bet on the turn and a call of your raise given that he had the best hand, and you sucked out on the river?

[bboy_]

if you want to play that game then what was he doing preflop with his 3bet OOP with a dominated hand that happened to suck out on my KQ on the turn?

[surfdoc]

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id fold the flop, fold the turn, and check the river

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Yup. I would do that as well as almost anything else llama says. Then again, I am a llama groupie.

[johnnyrocket]

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Standard = flop fold for me. And I get 3 bet a lot by blinds. I just feel this is the worst flop and we have the wrong hand to make a stand.

-DeathDonkey

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deathdonker is nailing every post in this forum, his other one was spot on also. I think this flop is an easy fold, K or Q may not be good and get us in deeper and so we can only count 4 outs for sure to win this pot, as played a turn fold should come here, a reraise prolly wont push him out here with the pot size. The river bet is real thin as played, i check being real happy it didnt cost me even more with my pair of queens.