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03-20-2007, 10:56 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] When B goes broke, the factories will still be there, those facotries will go on auction. Thereby if C buys that factory he will be in condition to compete with me , in spite of me deciding to lower my prices. Do you have any example where a company used predatory pricing and then the raised the prices affecting the consumers? [/ QUOTE ] Why would C buy the factories if you're just going to undercut him? Obviously the factory is capable of producing ham at $10 and not lower, otherwise B wouldn't be out of business. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, is someone actually arguing that there's a problem with the less efficient competitor being put out of business? [/ QUOTE ] Who said it was a problem, Mr. Inferences? Do you disagree that it discourages competition, though? 
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#12
03-20-2007, 11:00 PM
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Re: Dumping.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] When B goes broke, the factories will still be there, those facotries will go on auction. Thereby if C buys that factory he will be in condition to compete with me , in spite of me deciding to lower my prices. Do you have any example where a company used predatory pricing and then the raised the prices affecting the consumers? [/ QUOTE ] Why would C buy the factories if you're just going to undercut him? Obviously the factory is capable of producing ham at $10 and not lower, otherwise B wouldn't be out of business. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, is someone actually arguing that there's a problem with the less efficient competitor being put out of business? [/ QUOTE ] Who said it was a problem, Mr. Inferences? Do you disagree that it discourages competition, though? [/ QUOTE ] Less efficient competitors going out of business is competition, they're not having a tickle fight.
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#13
03-20-2007, 11:08 PM
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Does anyone know of examples of predatory pricing? [/ QUOTE ] Wal-Mart, obv. They're hawking super-low prices right now just so they can establish their monopoly, and then, once they've outcompeted every retail store into oblivion, then they will gouge prices to the moon and your shaving cream will cost $20 a can and the Walton brats will go MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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#14
03-20-2007, 11:28 PM
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Re: Dumping.
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[ QUOTE ] Does anyone know of examples of predatory pricing? [/ QUOTE ] Wal-Mart, obv. They're hawking super-low prices right now just so they can establish their monopoly, and then, once they've outcompeted every retail store into oblivion, then they will gouge prices to the moon and your shaving cream will cost $20 a can and the Walton brats will go MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Actually the bigger problem with Wal-Mart is that it forces producers to lower prices, but I'm sure you knew that.
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#15
03-20-2007, 11:30 PM
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Re: Dumping.
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[ QUOTE ] Does anyone know of examples of predatory pricing? [/ QUOTE ] Wal-Mart, obv. They're hawking super-low prices right now just so they can establish their monopoly, and then, once they've outcompeted every retail store into oblivion, then they will gouge prices to the moon and your shaving cream will cost $20 a can and the Walton brats will go MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] lol. It's funny (or tragic) how many people actually think this is the case. Walmart (AFAIK) has never used predatory pricing because their costs are so much lower than everyone elses. Also funny is that so many people misunderstand how walmart achieves their supremely low costs, it's not by squeezing their suppliers (although they do do this), it's because they have phenomenally low administrative costs. They have one HQ location, their executives share hotel rooms at cheap hotels when they travel around. What horrific capitalist excess!
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#16
03-20-2007, 11:31 PM
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Re: Dumping.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Does anyone know of examples of predatory pricing? [/ QUOTE ] Wal-Mart, obv. They're hawking super-low prices right now just so they can establish their monopoly, and then, once they've outcompeted every retail store into oblivion, then they will gouge prices to the moon and your shaving cream will cost $20 a can and the Walton brats will go MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Actually the bigger problem with Wal-Mart is that it forces producers to lower prices, but I'm sure you knew that. [/ QUOTE ] Telling it's distibuters that they have to lower prices or they won't deal with them isn't force.
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#17
03-20-2007, 11:34 PM
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Actually the bigger problem with Wal-Mart is that it forces producers to lower prices, but I'm sure you knew that. [/ QUOTE ] forces? So when Walmart causes TV manufacturers to sell their TVs at cost so Walmart can sell them on to the consumers at lower prices than anyone else it's a problem? How about when the government tries to force perfect competition on those TV manufacturers causing them to sell at cost so that the consumer gets maximum surplus? So it's great when the government does it at the point of a gun but a problem when Walmart does it using pure awesome?
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#18
03-20-2007, 11:34 PM
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Re: Dumping.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Does anyone know of examples of predatory pricing? [/ QUOTE ] Wal-Mart, obv. They're hawking super-low prices right now just so they can establish their monopoly, and then, once they've outcompeted every retail store into oblivion, then they will gouge prices to the moon and your shaving cream will cost $20 a can and the Walton brats will go MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Actually the bigger problem with Wal-Mart is that it forces producers to lower prices, but I'm sure you knew that. [/ QUOTE ] Telling it's distibuters that they have to lower prices or they won't deal with them isn't force. [/ QUOTE ] Shake it's difficult for me to have conversations with you when all you care about is some absurd notion of freedom/rights/force.
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03-20-2007, 11:36 PM
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lol. It's funny (or tragic) how many people actually think this is the case. Walmart (AFAIK) has never used predatory pricing because their costs are so much lower than everyone elses. Also funny is that so many people misunderstand how walmart achieves their supremely low costs, it's not by squeezing their suppliers (although they do do this), it's because they have phenomenally low administrative costs. They have one HQ location, their executives share hotel rooms at cheap hotels when they travel around. What horrific capitalist excess! [/ QUOTE ] They also save a lot of money by not meeting environmental standards, cutting people to part time so they don't get benefits, forcing people to work off the clock and using state money to pay employee benefits.
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#20
03-20-2007, 11:37 PM
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Re: Dumping.
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[ QUOTE ] Actually the bigger problem with Wal-Mart is that it forces producers to lower prices, but I'm sure you knew that. [/ QUOTE ] forces? So when Walmart causes TV manufacturers to sell their TVs at cost so Walmart can sell them on to the consumers at lower prices than anyone else it's a problem? How about when the government tries to force perfect competition on those TV manufacturers causing them to sell at cost so that the consumer gets maximum surplus? So it's great when the government does it at the point of a gun but a problem when Walmart does it using pure awesome? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, you really zeroed in on the part of my post where I talked about government and guns and hammered that hypocrisy in.
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