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Old 03-14-2007, 02:37 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: Public Health Care - Why not at state level first?

I would probably do it at the city level. FWIW I think all government should exist mostly at the city-state level.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: Public Health Care - Why not at state level first?

In my state of Illinois there is a bill up currently that would move towards state health care. Not sure of the exact details, maybe iron could fill you in.

My guess is that one reason that states don't try this themselves more often is that they are already going broke. Especially the blue states that would most want to but are currently propping up the red states financially.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/62.html
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Public Health Care - Why not at state level first?

There is definitely one very good argument for a national approach, but I'm saving it for later.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:49 PM
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State by state is a horrible idea for any welfare policy. The problem is free riding.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Public Health Care - Why not at state level first?

The cost is too high for individual states, as a percentage of their current revenue. The increases needed would be, percentage-wise, astronomical.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:09 PM
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State by state is a horrible idea for any welfare policy. The problem is free riding.

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How is free riding a problem? That's the entire point of socialized medicine.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:22 PM
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The cost is too high for individual states, as a percentage of their current revenue. The increases needed would be, percentage-wise, astronomical.

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But if the federal government is currently using money to pay for this, that money could easily be used at the state (or city/county) level.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:27 PM
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The cost is too high for individual states, as a percentage of their current revenue. The increases needed would be, percentage-wise, astronomical.

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But if the federal government is currently using money to pay for this, that money could easily be used at the state (or city/county) level.

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Wait, the feds are currently providing universal health care? Or are you saying that if states wanted to pay for this the feds would lower taxes by the appropriate amount to make it a net wash?
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:29 PM
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That would be the idea, yeah.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:47 PM
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State by state is a horrible idea for any welfare policy. The problem is free riding.

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My impression is that free riding is never a big problem in any venue. I may not be considering everything, of course. What I mean is that free riding strikes me as generally being a minor problem, never a big problem. So...I don't see how a minor problem makes any idea a horrible idea.
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