Coaching WARNING

[Keyser.]

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I had the roll for 200nl and was beating it at 1.7ptbb/100. I took snowbanks coaching and in 3 weeks lost everything. So I was expecting to improve and move up. He advertised a 10ptbb/100 winrate!

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ok, you might have some (shaky) ground to stand on in your OP but this is just ridiculous. It's not snowbank's fault you lost after one coaching session when you clearly were underrolled.

[Al_Money]

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I had the roll for 200nl and was beating it at 1.7ptbb/100. I took snowbanks coaching and in 3 weeks lost everything. So I was expecting to improve and move up. He advertised a 10ptbb/100 winrate!

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So if you had the roll for 1/2, and proceeded to lose all of it, then it is your fault for not moving down. Also, you should have known that 10ptbb is unattainable these days.

[Chaos_ult]

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He advertised a 10ptbb/100 winrate!

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Well there's your first warning.

[GittyUP]

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That's not to say that refunding your money wouldn't be in both of your best interests. Yours because you get your money back, snobank's because negative word of mouth is 10 times more effective than positive word of mouth, and reputations are often impossible to repair once damaged.



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I dont think he is wrong for not wanting to give a refund but I doubt others will want his coaching given he obviously cares more about a little bit of money then being a flexible and understanding businessman. Makes me wonder if i dealt with him would he be flexible about anything else or do I have to listen to his every demand.

[ajmargarine]

sanjuan:

1. What was your bankroll before you payed snobank for coaching?

2. Clarify: The coaching was not bad the first hour, second hour was awful,

3. Clarify: ...and he was never available other then the two hours we did.

[pokersanjuan]

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I had the roll for 200nl and was beating it at 1.7ptbb/100. I took snowbanks coaching and in 3 weeks lost everything. So I was expecting to improve and move up. He advertised a 10ptbb/100 winrate!

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ok, you might have some (shaky) ground to stand on in your OP but this is just ridiculous. It's not snowbank's fault you lost after one coaching session when you clearly were underrolled.

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Wasn't one session. I am NOT blaming him for losing.

I only want a refund for unused sessions.

[Grunch]

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I had the roll for 200nl and was beating it at 1.7ptbb/100. I took snowbanks coaching and in 3 weeks lost everything. So I was expecting to improve and move up. He advertised a 10ptbb/100 winrate!

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Over how many hands? What was your roll in $?

You are implying that your losses were snowbank's fault. If you're making this kind of implication, you had better be prepared to back it up with documented facts.

[Lucky]

Well, he doesn't 'owe' you the money, but i imagine 90% of coaches listed on twoplustwo would refund the portion you havent received lessons on.

As an aside on Snowbank, when we played at party a lot together, he asked my 'supbro name.' I told him and asked his. He didnt answer, but said he would pm me. He never did of course. I asked him a couple of times later on party, same outcome. Not a huge deal, but does make this scenario not as surprising.

[Grunch]

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I had the roll for 200nl and was beating it at 1.7ptbb/100. I took snowbanks coaching and in 3 weeks lost everything. So I was expecting to improve and move up. He advertised a 10ptbb/100 winrate!

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ok, you might have some (shaky) ground to stand on in your OP but this is just ridiculous. It's not snowbank's fault you lost after one coaching session when you clearly were underrolled.

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Wasn't one session. I am NOT blaming him for losing.

I only want a refund for unused sessions.

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If you aren't blaming him for losing then you shouldn't have made this post:

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I had the roll for 200nl and was beating it at 1.7ptbb/100. I took snowbanks coaching and in 3 weeks lost everything. So I was expecting to improve and move up. He advertised a 10ptbb/100 winrate!

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...as it is completely irrelevant.

[wildzer0]

IF snowbank was and is unavailable then I think he owes you the money. Just from a quick read through your post though, it looks like he may have been unavailable for a short time when he was in vegas. I basically think that the only way he owes you the money is if he's unwilling to give you the lessons now to the best of his ability.

edit to say: If I was in snowbank's position, I would refund the money on request. But, I think it's basically his choice.