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#11
03-01-2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
I think preflop's a fold, but it's close. I'd definitely fold from the SB with a 1/2 blind structure and probably call from the BB.
The thing to look out for here is that with this many people seeing a flop hold 'em starts to play a bit like lolmaha, where you usually have to make something fairly close to the nuts to drag the pot. You have a hand that can't make the nut straight and is far, far away from being able to make the nut flush. Your two pair hands are *very* vulnerable. Trips are better, but will still lose occasionally. 
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#12
03-01-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
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[ QUOTE ] I fold preflop. I fold the flop. No calculator needed. [/ QUOTE ] Why don't you run some numbers? I think you'd be surprised. Preflop is close but many others are saying easy call, so just ignore that for now. The flop is much more important. [/ QUOTE ] I would say that the dilemma you face on the flop tells you something about preflop.
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#13
03-01-2007, 06:21 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
It would take an earthquake for me to fold preflop for one more chip.
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#14
03-01-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
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It would take an earthquake for me to fold preflop for one more chip. [/ QUOTE ] So would every person in this thread. What's your point? It was 4 more chips. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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#15
03-01-2007, 06:40 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
Ok you want comments on the flop....
Pot odds look fine, the problem is massive redrawage. Anyone with two pair or set or a FD is slurping up tons of your equity from making a straight. The 5c would be a huge mixed blessing. Your straight isn't even the nuts, and the river will often be another nut straight to dodge. Your backdoor FD is a real nose-pincher. And the action continuing for all those bets on the flop is not really that much of a surprise. Absolutely positively fold for two bets on the flop. 20:2 is no good when you'll get rivered so freakin often.
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#16
03-01-2007, 07:04 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
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[ QUOTE ] I fold preflop. I fold the flop. No calculator needed. [/ QUOTE ] Why don't you run some numbers? I think you'd be surprised. Preflop is close but many others are saying easy call, so just ignore that for now. The flop is much more important. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you that preflop and the flop is close. Just telling you what I would do.
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#17
03-01-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
Close to a turn value checkraise no?
-DeathDonkey
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#18
03-01-2007, 07:14 PM
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Re: Get Your Calculators Out!
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[ QUOTE ] It would take an earthquake for me to fold preflop for one more chip. [/ QUOTE ] So would every person in this thread. What's your point? It was 4 more chips. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Whoops. Who am I kidding. I'm calling for 4 more chips too. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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