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Old 03-01-2007, 03:29 AM
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Interesting that the driver signs no promise to appear.

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True, I have heard that if you just throw away the ticket the Police will have to eventually send an officer to your house to make you sign.

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Make who sign, the registered owner? What if someone else was driving?
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:32 AM
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Bringing up good points, but if they got a picture of you and you are the owner...
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:40 AM
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My right to not be monitored and ticketed through a camera.

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Where does such a "right" come from? I'm quite sure the courts have ruled that you have very little expectation of privacy in public.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:52 AM
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I think it is often safer to be driving 5-10 mph faster than the speed limit.

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See, your real beef is you don't like speeding laws. Fair, but this particular argument is complete BS. You're openly violating the law in public. How can you possibly think you have a right to do this?
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Speeding Cameras

Article about photo speeding tickets in San Jose, CA

<ul type="square">[*]The camera vans (as used in San Jose) are illegal[*]the city knows they are and they lost in court [*]the city plans to continue using the vans and mailing out the tickets anyways[/list]
I read the article and wondered why the city officials aren't going to jail. The author, Gary Richards, covers traffic and is a big fan of using the state to coerce behavior he likes from drivers (helmet laws, cell phone laws, etc.), as long as it is not an inconvenience for him.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:52 AM
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Default Invisible license plate spray to combat cameras

http://www.autoinfozone.com/invisibl...ates/index.htm
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:56 AM
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For some reason I feel this is a extreme violation of rights. We as tax payers pay for the roads and I feel that cops should not be able ticket citizens by posting up cameras in unsuspecting areas. I was wondering why as tax payers we do not get to Vote and decide whether or not we want cameras enforcing speed?

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What specific right are they violating? Your right to speed?

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his right to freedom from opression and his right to be treated as more than a entity to tax.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:57 AM
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My right to not be monitored and ticketed through a camera.

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Where does such a "right" come from? I'm quite sure the courts have ruled that you have very little expectation of privacy in public.

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sounds like slave speak to me.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:59 AM
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Here in San Diego at certain intersections we have cameras. They will only take a picture if you run a red light. It is pretty obvious that they are there, as they are in big white boxes that look like a camera belongs in them, and in some places they have signs up saying photo enforcement is in effect. They even block out the passenger side of the car when a picture is taken.

It also sounds like these cars are marked as police vehicles. Do you find cameras on police cars that are used when making a traffic stop a violation of your rights as well?

As a taxpayer I should have the right to feel safe on the road

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i didn't read that he was driving dangerously. speed tickets are about a tax scam, you know that right?
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:32 AM
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For some reason I feel this is a extreme violation of rights. We as tax payers pay for the roads and I feel that cops should not be able ticket citizens by posting up cameras in unsuspecting areas. I was wondering why as tax payers we do not get to Vote and decide whether or not we want cameras enforcing speed?

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What specific right are they violating? Your right to speed?

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his right to freedom from opression and his right to be treated as more than a entity to tax.

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If this is oppressive, why aren't speed limits and traffic lights oppressive?
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