Another hand vs Rekwob (Full tilt $75 6 handed)

[Bond18]

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Bond

I am not familiar with the play in such events, nor Rekwobs style.

What kind of holdings do you think he could be taking this line with?

How often do you expect it to be just some kind of blind defense?

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Rekwob is definately a good enough player to defend his blind with the call/donk flop line.

I think he could take this line with a Q, KJ/JT, 9T, KT.

The donk bet threw me for a bit of a loop.

[cjx]

Well, that's about as bad a turn as possible. Maybe only slightly better than a Jack. I curse myself for not playing it differently and fold. I just don't know if he'll be able to lay ANYTHING down unless he's on a pure bluff and calling, check/folding a miss would be awful so all I can think of here is push or fold and ... I fold.

cjx

[4CardStraight]

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Alrite then, lets advance the hand.

Flop:
Rekwob bets 600, hero calls.

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Rekwob bets 1800, hero?

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And this would be why I pushed on the flop. So, if a diamond comes we can assume he *might* check fold, so were not exactly extracting by making a call on the flop. If we flat call, what do we do when the inevitable happens and we do not hit one of our outs and any old card comes and the villain bets. I think having to fold the turn really sucks. The whole point of a hand like yours on the flop is that it should see both of the last two cards.

Clearly you play at a way higher level than I do, and against way harder opponents. I think pretty straightforward on this flop. Mucho outs, Want to see both cards, some moderate fold equity, ALLSYOUCANEAT, im allin.

[Foucault]

Flop call is good, turn should be a fold. You're not ahead, he'll rarely fold turn, you'll never bluff river successfully when you miss, you'll rarely get paid when you hit, you don't have odds to draw, and sometimes you get stacked on river because boats and trips are definitely in his range here.

[WarDekar]

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Alrite then, lets advance the hand.

Flop:
Rekwob bets 600, hero calls.

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Rekwob bets 1800, hero?

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And this would be why I pushed on the flop. So, if a diamond comes we can assume he *might* check fold, so were not exactly extracting by making a call on the flop. If we flat call, what do we do when the inevitable happens and we do not hit one of our outs and any old card comes and the villain bets. I think having to fold the turn really sucks. The whole point of a hand like yours on the flop is that it should see both of the last two cards.

Clearly you play at a way higher level than I do, and against way harder opponents. I think pretty straightforward on this flop. Mucho outs, Want to see both cards, some moderate fold equity, ALLSYOUCANEAT, im allin.

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Pushing that flop is not a good idea at all IMO. The pot is way too small to be overpushing that and lets him know you don't have a made hand. As I said originally, raising to 1,800-2k is the play on the flop.

Fold is the play on the turn given how you played the flop.

[Ansky]

Raise the flop all day and call a shove.

[T_Mac]

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Raise the flop all day and suck out

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[kutuz_off]

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Raise the flop all day and call a shove.

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Make it 1800 on the flop and get all your chips in one way or another on the turn (except for this Q or J turn, when you have to fold to a push).

[bigballz]

just make it 2100 on flop and call a push

[holdemft]

R/R to 1800-2000 on the flop. If he just calls, you may get a free card if you miss the turn. If he folds, great, If he pushes, let's gamble.

As played on his turn bet of 1800, your expressed odds are 2.4 to 1, not good enough to call. If you think you can get all his chips in the middle if you hit T or a diamond, then your implied odds are closer to 5.4 to 1, which would be good enough. If you think you can get him to call another 2k for value if you hit your hand, you'll get around 4.2 to 1 odds which is just good enough to call. Its a gamble if you decide to call, but I think you'll have the odds if you hit your hand. If your flush/str8's are actually good that is.