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Old 01-29-2007, 09:56 PM
ssmallz ssmallz is offline
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Default Re: Big Hands on Big Streets

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Another line that can be pretty sweet here if you have a read is to cap up the flop AND checkraise the turn. This will work against aggro opposition who will put you on a flush draw or pair/draw combo that missed on the turn.

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Kinda like this?

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $8/$16
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (14BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (22BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Results:
Final pot: 25BB
Hero showed Tc Ts
CO mucks Jc Js
SB mucks Ad Ah
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:32 PM
surfdoc surfdoc is offline
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Default Re: Big Hands on Big Streets

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Another line that can be pretty sweet here if you have a read is to cap up the flop AND checkraise the turn. This will work against aggro opposition who will put you on a flush draw or pair/draw combo that missed on the turn.

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Kinda like this?

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $8/$16
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (14BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (22BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Results:
Final pot: 25BB
Hero showed Tc Ts
CO mucks Jc Js
SB mucks Ad Ah

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That is so sick. Love it. You actually got robbed since the SB should have CRd the turn with his rockets and then you could have check 3 bet for maximum pwnage.
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:56 AM
JasonP530 JasonP530 is offline
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Default Re: Big Hands on Big Streets

I wouldn't 5bet the turn, because if you lead/3bet the turn it is VERY likely he can beat 1 pair when he 4bets you. When you lead, he will often raise one pair to protect it, since it looks like you didn't want to give a free card either, and he is trying to get the SB out of the pot. Some people overplay AA there(wouldn't you 3bet the flop or c/r the turn with two pair or better they can reason), or they could have a pair/clubdraw or straightdraw/clubdraw, which is why you need to calldown after being 4bet. I like the turn donk, in the hopes that SB will fold some weaker draws given the size of the pot, and because PFR will raise one pair hands again, allowing you to 3bet...

-jason
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