What hell is with all the miniraises?

[tannenj]

i just treat them like normal raises (that provide you with different pot odds, obviously). i don't think they "mean" anything; in other words, the average minraising villain is neither stronger nor weaker than the average raising villain in my opinion. here are two from today:

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $97.50
SB: $191.95
BB: $94.35
UTG: $73
Hero (MP): $196.80

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3, 5 players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $26</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all in to $189.80</font>, BTN calls all in for $64.50
Uncalled bet of $99.30 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($198, 2 players)
No action

<font color="black">River:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($198, 2 players)
No action

<font color="black">Results:</font>
BTN had 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Nines and Twos)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Twos) and won $195
Final Pot: $195.00 ($3.00 rake)

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $199.2
BB: $294.35
Hero (UTG): $321.40
MP: $230.05
CO: $178.35
BTN: $328.60

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO calls $7, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $5

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($22, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $34</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all in to $314.40</font>, CO calls all in for $137.35
Uncalled bet of $143.05 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($364.7, 2 players)
No action

<font color="black">River:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($364.7, 2 players)
No action

<font color="black">Results:</font>
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and won $361.70
CO had 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Sevens)
Final Pot: $361.70 ($3.00 rake)

[Ben86]

I dont know but it [censored] drives me crazy too. I lose a lot of money to [censored] around trying to figure it out

[Ben86]

I may start integrating the min reraise and let you all know how that works.

[DaCooler]

LET me know , cause i want to punch the guy everytime.

[poppingit]

people are taking limons advice.

[Yahivin]

I think that a minraise means "I used to play LIMIT!"

[74o_Clownsuit]

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people are taking limons advice.

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I lol'ed.

[matrix]

minraise = "I have the nuts"

hand 1 overpair = teh nuts

hand 2 TPTK = teh nuts

you just need to work out what each payer happens to think the nuts is so you know what hands to call with...

[Vammakala]

A lot of people minraise marginal top pairs these days. I used to read it as set or something similar earlier, but nowadays it mostly seems to be weak top pair. They're not folding to 3-bet though so you can easily 3-bet push sets and they happily go broke with K3 on KT7 flop [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[limon]

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people are taking limons advice.

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possibly true. i have many students. just looking at this thread and the angst they cuase proves the power especially the guy who treats min and full raises the same. i would min raise that guy into a coma. BTW DO NOT TRY THIS W/O PROPER INSTRUCTION. YOU WILL GET SLAUGHTERED.