Theory Post: Reraised Blind Battles and Bluffing with Marginal Hands

[sam h]

Thanks for the kind words guys. Getting killed with work right now but maybe in a while I will try to do one of these on either calling in these spots or one on bluff raising continuation bets on various types of flops when you cold call preflop in position.

[BadMongo]

Great post.

It would be interesting to see how your conclusions would change with different board textures. I may have to run some numbers of my own when I have the time...

[LearnedfromTV]

great post

[Albert Moulton]

Thanks. Great post. This should get a link in one of the stickies.

[SynZen]

Great post, probably a little over simplified, but I think you made your point very well. I would think that doing this a lot would cost you a lot of money as people would catch on, but I think it shows how valuable it is to be some what unpredictable.

[gimmetheloot]

tag.

[einherjar]

no way we can raise AK to 40 units and fold when pushed over for 30 units in a 170 unit pot. So I think pushing is the same as the small raise since it's going in anyway (because if his range for pushing consists of single pairs less than A or K we are getting tremendous odds w/ our AK)

[Freelancer]

Oh great, now I have to deal with all these tags bluffraising me...Thank you !! (grrrr [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

Einher makes a good point, perhaps leave the donkraise for the small pairs and the push for AK equity wise.


This finally gives me a weapon against those bitchy 'getting out of line but not caring' 3-bettors, I thought about floating and bluff pushing preflop but this is fairly genious as well. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


Is anybody still using the idea of pushing Axs and/or suited connectors preflop against frequint 3-bettors?
How have the results been so far? I could make a new thread but this is fairly close to the OP and a quick question regarding the same concepts (attacking frequint 3-bettors)...

[poppingit]

Excellant post and one that may well change the landscape of SSNL games. This will force many players to start 2nd guessing themselves and making mistakes later in the session. Also has great metagame value and if the correct adjustments can be made once players catch onto what your doing, then you can have a field day whenever you actually have a big hand and flat call 3 bets pre.

[sam h]

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no way we can raise AK to 40 units and fold when pushed over for 30 units in a 170 unit pot. So I think pushing is the same as the small raise since it's going in anyway (because if his range for pushing consists of single pairs less than A or K we are getting tremendous odds w/ our AK)

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I think you miscalculated the stacks, since calling the BBs push here would involve putting in another 49 units. If calling that 49 units with AK was correct against the range specified then the EV of the "raise 40, with the intention of folding" would be lower than the EV of pushing. But thats not the case. If he also pushes with some overcard rebluffs, then maybe things change.