30/60 @ Wynn - Page 2

The DaveR · #11 01-17-2007, 02:30 PM

WTF happened to everyone here? The river is a very straightfoward bet/call. Aggros think everyone is FOS and he will bluffraise the river enough to make bet/call easily the best option.

private joker · #12 01-17-2007, 02:31 PM

If hero's image is somewhat decent, DaveR, I think checking to induce a bluff is a fine play on the river. Bet/call isn't bad either, but I don't mind the check-call.

The DaveR · #13 01-17-2007, 02:34 PM

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If hero's image is somewhat decent, DaveR, I think checking to induce a bluff is a fine play on the river. Bet/call isn't bad either, but I don't mind the check-call.

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Bet/call is better for the reasons I said. You haven't answered them. I also left unsaid the small advantage to value betting him thinly and fearlessly and forcing him to think about the fact that you are adjusting properly to him when he raises light. There are some river cards where check/call is best; this isn't one of them.

Bicycles_Biatch · #14 01-17-2007, 02:42 PM

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If hero's image is somewhat decent, DaveR, I think checking to induce a bluff is a fine play on the river. Bet/call isn't bad either, but I don't mind the check-call.

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I think I had a good image... only played two hands and came in for a raise on both of them over the last 45 minutes (AK and 10-10)...

was defending my blinds about 50-60% of the time.

My though process was that when the king fell on the river there were 3 options:

1) bet, I get raised if he spiked a King and had been playing all the way with overs

2) bet, he folds if he has something like A-10 or 33

3) check/call- my original line... may induce a bluff and/or save me one bet for those times when he did spike a king.

jba · #15 01-17-2007, 02:52 PM

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If hero's image is somewhat decent, DaveR, I think checking to induce a bluff

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the problem is that his range has very few hands with no showdown value, so he lacks motive to bluff. if he's a aggro donkey fine, but he's checking behind hoping AQ is good a lot.

blindside · #16 01-17-2007, 03:04 PM

bet the river... he can most likely call down light here.... i'm pretty sure he's not folding something like 33 if he calls the turn with it or something like T7 and you give him an opportunity to check behind with those hands... and no chance in hell he checks a better hand than J9...

though seeing the results may have influenced my opinion...