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#11
01-12-2007, 08:15 AM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
Any thoughts on checkraising an ace or king, particularly a diamond, on the turn and hoping he may fold a smaller pocket pair? Plus, if it's a diamond, you have a lot of outs if called (and if he does call, you can give up and not bluff the river bc he will never be folding there). Ramblings...
Jeff 
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#12
01-12-2007, 08:18 AM
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RESULTS
Well...all this analysis turned out to be unecessary as the turn card was the 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I checked, he bet, I raised and he quickly made it three bets. I took it to four bets and then he seemed to consider taking it to five bets before calling. The river blanked, I bet and he called. He told me he turned a set of tens. Thanks for the responses.
Jeff
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#13
01-12-2007, 08:41 AM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
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With plans to VB the pair on the river and bluff busted? [/ QUOTE ] I saw the results. NH. River action is player dependent. If he's type to call the c/r with missed overs and hope to hit, then I'd barrel a brick river with a busted hand. Not sure I'd VB though as I'd have 8's or 6's and he'd have to call with worse.
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#14
01-12-2007, 08:44 AM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
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Not sure I'd VB though as I'd have 8's or 6's and he'd have to call with worse. [/ QUOTE ] If he called the turn with something like AK, he could easily call the river with it but check behind if you check. If you check, he will valuebet bigger pairs but will not raise if you bet. Ok, I have to go to work now. Jeff
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#15
01-12-2007, 10:56 AM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
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Yea, I didn't really think this guy was the type to reraise without a hand like AQ, AK or a pair. Maybe AJ. I don't think he's three-balling with something like K8s, etc. But I see what you're saying. And by folding, you mean on the turn right? I don't see anyone laying down anything for one extra bet on the flop there. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] With a possible 14 outs against a lot of ace high hands I don't mind putting in money on the flop hoping to sometimes fold out a non-ace-high hand. [/ QUOTE ] AJ he probably won't wont fold to a flop c/r... but he might fold lots of non A high-non made hands right away - other than that the goal is to get a fold from AK on the turn. Another slightly cheaper option is to donk into the player, but that will probably not be as effective if he is going to call down with A high overs to the river. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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#16
01-12-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
[ QUOTE ]
Any thoughts on checkraising an ace or king, particularly a diamond, on the turn and hoping he may fold a smaller pocket pair? Plus, if it's a diamond, you have a lot of outs if called (and if he does call, you can give up and not bluff the river bc he will never be folding there). Ramblings... Jeff [/ QUOTE ] I like this idea vs tags who are trying to play well, who just dont get that bet/folding a player like you HU is a very bad idea. If you think this guy is going to make this type of mistake on the turn, then I say go for it, but your description in your OP made me believe that this guy wont make this type of fold, but you were there Jeff, so you probably have the best feel for whether this play will work or not against him.
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#17
01-12-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
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And by folding, you mean on the turn right? I don't see anyone laying down anything for one extra bet on the flop there. So I see the flop checkraise as more for value though it can set-up a fold on the turn sometimes if he reraised light. Jeff [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I think Deathdonkey meant the turn or the river since no one is folding anything on the flop. And if you believe this guy will fold A-high somewhere along the way then I would definitely check/raise the flop and I would definitely fire UI on the river If I felt he would take AK/AQ that far and then fold if he doesnt hit. The reason I implied that I would check/call the flop and turn is cuz I got the impression that this guy will not fold Ace high no matter what you do.
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#18
01-12-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
80% for Vegas right now...will know next week.
-DeathDonkey
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01-12-2007, 02:59 PM
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Re: 4th Street at the 40 Game
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80% for Vegas right now...will know next week. -DeathDonkey [/ QUOTE ] Rotation game waiting. AJ at Wynn wants us to play Badugi so he can learn, unfortunately it also means low limit (at least for a little bit)  TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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