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12-21-2006, 07:43 PM
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Re: Push Pre-Flop with Aces?
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Dumb question, but why the hell would you want to run it twice with aces allin pf??? [/ QUOTE ] b/c i still have around a 64% chance of winning a $580 pot, and only a 4% chance of going broke. if i lost the pot, i would have had to leave b/c i didn't have any more money on me. why would you be so opposed? edit: this was a local game, so they let players do that kind of stuff. 
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#13
12-21-2006, 07:45 PM
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Re: Push Pre-Flop with Aces?
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i do this if i'm playing: a. someone who will maybe call me or b. someone that is either really good or crazy and i have a tough time playing with after the flop last time i did it, it was both a and b in a 1/2 nl game. i'd just one a big pot and still had a pile of chips in front of me. ab guy raises UTG to 16 or so, and i look down at AA. i say all-in, and it folds around to him. he calls before i can even get my chips counted for what ends up being 274 more w/TT. we ran it twice, and he hit a T on the first one, so we ended up chopping b/c i run bad. [/ QUOTE ] where do they let you waste time by running it twice in a 1/2 game?
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#14
12-21-2006, 07:45 PM
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Re: Push Pre-Flop with Aces?
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Dumb question, but why the hell would you want to run it twice with aces allin pf??? [/ QUOTE ] No reason from a math stand point, and one of the reasons why you almost never see it at low limits. The vast majority of people doing business are doing it on the flop or turn. There are two good reasons (IMO) to run it... First it allows players that are scared money or playing too high for their bankroll/lifestyle (which is many) to help avoid variance or at least lessen the impact of it on them. Second, to keep the other players happy. There is no sense in pissing off a fish at the table and having them leave the game because you think it is silly to run it when they only have 2-6 outs. I was asked by a major fish in a private game once to run it PF my AA vs his KK. I agreed to run it three times, he was happy and he re-bought so I was happy too.
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#16
12-21-2006, 07:58 PM
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Re: Push Pre-Flop with Aces?
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where do they let you waste time by running it twice in a 1/2 game? [/ QUOTE ] If the dealer knows anything, it doesn't that much more time. 1. Don't center the all-in bets (I see dealers center the capped turn action when the board is KQJT rainbow and act surprised when they have to split the pot 3 ways). If the pot is split, the two just take that back and all you have to split is what is in the center. Not that much time. 2. How long does it take to put out two boards?
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#17
12-21-2006, 07:58 PM
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Re: Push Pre-Flop with Aces?
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[ QUOTE ] Dumb question, but why the hell would you want to run it twice with aces allin pf??? [/ QUOTE ] Running it twice is always for the same reason: reducing variance. [/ QUOTE ] I understand the concept, just don't understand why anyone would do it with AA v. xx hands... From the times I've seen people do it (on HSP or VERY occasionally live, etc...) it's been with AK v. 77 or KK v. Ax NFD types... It's fine if you just didnt have any rebuy money with you and would've had to leave, but in general, if you're looking for a "lower variance", you shouldn't be playing that particular limit IMO
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#18
12-21-2006, 09:44 PM
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Re: Push Pre-Flop with Aces?
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It's fine if you just didnt have any rebuy money with you and would've had to leave, but in general, if you're looking for a "lower variance", you shouldn't be playing that particular limit IMO [/ QUOTE ] noted
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#19
12-22-2006, 05:53 AM
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Re: Push Pre-Flop with Aces?
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I understand the concept, just don't understand why anyone would do it with AA v. xx hands... [/ QUOTE ] Then clearly you dont understand it. And in HSP IIRC Farha vs. Greenstein AA vs. KK, Farha asked if Barry wants to run it twice.
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