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Old 12-19-2006, 11:54 AM
Jeff76 Jeff76 is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

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Why didn't you raise 6th?

[/ QUOTE ]Because I hate money [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

In the moment I felt like a raise might get the same number of bets in as a call, and that I could go for an overcall on both 6th and 7th rather than risk raising into a full house. I figured either way I get 2 bets from them, but overcalling is "safer". Now I think that logic was pretty dumb because

1) seat 2 might not call on the river
2) seat 2 might make a hand that beats me if I let him stay in for cheap.
3) seat 2 might call two bets anyway
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

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If he has aces he is probably going to raise you to get it heads up and to shut down the bring in.

[/ QUOTE ]Players at 1/2 NEVER re-raise without aces up here.

My reasoning for betting there was that if I didn't, the aces would, so why not put the bet in myself since I have to call if he bets?
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

That's Ok Jeff. We all miss betting opportunities from time to time. Hindsight is 20/20.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

Then it might be something I oughta stop doing.

In this hand though, in order to have have trip 5s you should have had started with some kind of straight draw on 3rd.
Im guessing players at 1/2 dont call raises with small 3 to a straight.

Then you could have hit 2 pair . And if he indeed has Aces he could semibluff you out of your hand. It would be difficult
for you to call unless you actually have caught a 4 flush and could a are semibluffing yourself.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

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Then it might be something I oughta stop doing.

[/ QUOTE ]Nah, 1/2 players are weak. Re-raising with aces here is the correct play- it's just that no one ever seems to do it.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

Well played Jeff. Very well indeed. Like a pro. There is nothing wrong with your game from the posts I've seen, All you need is experience.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:48 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

Third's a call. On fourth, yeah, you picked up a straight card, but a few of your straight outs are gone, and you're out of position. This is a marginal call at best. You can get away with marginal calls if you play well on the later streets. Playing well on the later streets includes raising when you make your damned flush already. Anyway, the bet on fifth is good. Obviously, the river is worth raising, but going for the over-call is OK, I suppose. But definitely raise sixth.
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

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Playing well on the later streets includes raising when you make your damned flush already.

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I swear, I don't normally pull this crap- just in the last few hands that I've posted. Like I said, I usually only post hands where I think I messed up.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 Too Loose? Too passive?

I don't liek the call on 3rd. He is in early position. The Ace raises a limper so it is likely that he has 2 Aces, etc.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:14 AM
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The Ace raises a limper so it is likely that he has 2 Aces, etc.

[/ QUOTE ]I am not playing this hand for high card strength. This will be at least a 3 way, possibly 4 way, pot with a fairly live multi-way hand.
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