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Old 12-19-2006, 08:46 PM
Goldmund Goldmund is offline
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Default Re: SAGE in cash games?

As Lee Jones states, it's an equilibrium strategy thats unexploitable. That does not make it the optimal strategy for playing against opponents that play sub-optimal.

It's a kind of Black Jack Basic Strategy for HU endgames with one or two shallow stacks. That's all. It cant be an 'offensive weapon' because that's just not what SAGE is about.

It's about when it is theoretically correct to push or call w. certain hands in high blind situations. However against opponents who stray from correct play, you'll have to adapt to obtain the maximum EV.
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:04 AM
Misanthrope Misanthrope is offline
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Default Re: SAGE in cash games?

Quick search, Ok sage < 10BB unexploitable. Where has it been described in detail?

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Old 12-20-2006, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: SAGE in cash games?

Where can i read about this SAGE?
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Old 12-20-2006, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: SAGE in cash games?

Here: http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/15250

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Here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

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Old 12-20-2006, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: SAGE in cash games?

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As Lee Jones states, it's an equilibrium strategy thats unexploitable. That does not make it the optimal strategy for playing against opponents that play sub-optimal
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against opponents who stray from correct play, you'll have to adapt to obtain the maximum EV.

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Lee seems to think different, or am I missing something

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The SAGE System is based on what mathematicians call an "equilibrium strategy," which is a strategy that cannot be "beaten" in the following sense: If either player deviates from the equilibrium, his expectation will go down (and thus, in a two-player game, his opponent's expectation must go up).

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Old 12-20-2006, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: SAGE in cash games?

He says his opponents expectation will go up, no where does he say it will maximize his EV which is what we are talking about.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: SAGE in cash games?

Yes, you are missing something
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